Comments on: IGD: Padres vs Marlins (3 Jul 07)

By: St. Oops

St. Oops — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:13:21 +0000

51: Trust me, I agree with every word of that. I’m just trying to grasp for straws to even understand how Pepe Idiot came to that decision last night.

In that post, I almost added something about passing out t-shirts saying “6 innings or 75 pitches, Bud” to everyone at Wells and Maddux starts. Or maybe we could just get people out in left and right field to hold up pieces of white and blue paper to spell out “PEN TIME” large enough for Bud to read at an appropriate time.

UGH today is the suck. Sitting on this horrible loss and I’m just now finishing up at a 10 hour day at work on July 4th, which surprisingly the Germans don’t celebrate. Who’da thunk it.

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By: SDSUBASEBALL

SDSUBASEBALL — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:24:36 +0000

50: Send Ballsley out there to chat with Maddux for a bit then let Maddux IBB that gives Ring roughly the same amount of time. And you dont burn one of your top relievers to give another one more time, especially in a game that potentially could go into extra innings Hampson or K-Cam could had gone out there without being warm if they were just going to IBB someone. This is a game we had in the bag, if Bud just realizes 6 inning or 75 pitches you gotta have people up and ready and put them in with the first hard hit ball.

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By: St. Oops

St. Oops — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:07:11 +0000

48: Burning a pitcher gives a little more time, because Meredith gets some time on the mound to warm up. If Maddux had pitched the IBB then it’s just 4 quick pitches. NOT to say I think the decision was a reasonable one.

The real question is why wasn’t Ring ALREADY in the bullpen warming up? IF you’re going to use Maddux in the 7th - and that’s a BIG “only idiots do this” if - then you want to have a pitcher or two up in the pen even BEFORE trouble starts, because you know trouble is a’coming.

And as for his “we’re all bound to make mistakes” quote…I would forgive the mistake if it wasn’t one he’s been making every single time Wells and Maddux start. I know I’m exaggerating this and Bud has actually done a lot of things right this year, but it’s just so hard to lose a game like this.

This is why it’s good baseball teams play every day. If I had to sit on this game for a week, it’d be a long week. Instead we can look forward to a C.Y. start.

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By: Bob Timmermann

Bob Timmermann — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:58:00 +0000

It doesn't make much sense to me and I think Black just got caught unawares. On the list, I noticed that back in 1977, Chuck Tanner used Goose Gossage for an IBB and nothing else in a game. I suppose he was going for a platoon advantage in the game, but if you look at the details, it makes no sense. In 1977 Gossage was pretty much unhittable.

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By: Bruce

Bruce — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:46:28 +0000

47: Why couldn't Maddux do that? It doesn't make any sense.

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By: Bob Timmermann

Bob Timmermann — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:34:29 +0000

In the AP story of the game, Black said he had Meredith issue the IBB to give Ring more time to warm up.

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By: Geoff Young

Geoff Young — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:23:07 +0000

#2: OPS+ doesn’t account for steals. Honestly, it’s kind of a garbage stat, but I find it useful in doing rough comps. As for Reyes, he gets dinged heavily for posting some poor numbers in ‘04 and ‘05. Since then, he’s been a stud and he’s just 24 years old.

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By: St. Oops

St. Oops — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:16:24 +0000

Okay. It's official. I HATE Bud Black.

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By: Geoff Young

Geoff Young — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:13:40 +0000

#42: Thanks, Bob. Seeing Eddie Oropesa's name and realizing that he no longer pitches here always makes me feel better...

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By: Bruce

Bruce — Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:13:14 +0000

41: I feel your frustration Geoff. I keep telling myself that we are still 12 games over .500. But when your team routinely struggles to score and has a lights out bullpen, I feel like we have to take all necessary precaution to guard a 4-2 lead. So while I understand why Maddux began the 7th–he WAS facing the bottom third of their order: Olivo, Linden and a PH (not so imposing)–I find it almost criminal that Black did not see the warning signs early on in that inning (taking into consideration Maddux’s numbers after 75 pitches).

Olivo ripped his single to left and then Linden, LINDEN, drove a ball that would have left most other parks. At this point, alarm bells should have been going off. I would have sent Balsley out there to stall, anything to get a reliever ready. The 0-2 pitch to Ramirez was just a bad pitch, but at least we were still tied with no one on and one out. To me with the top of the order coming up, it’s an easy call to take Maddux out. But he didn’t, not even after three straight hard hit balls, including the game tying HR. So after two more hits and Cabrera coming up, he’s then going to take Maddux out to bring in Cla’ to IBB the guy? That was a criminal misuse of your ‘pen.

I, like Mike, thought that things were looking good once we went up 4-2 going into the 7th. Never thought I would witness the sequence of events that transpired in the 7th. Black said that he was bound to make some mistakes, but this one takes the cake. In a tight race, we can’t afford to give away games like this one.

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