Comments on: Fun with Win Shares http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:01:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60868 Geoff Young Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:14:29 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60868 #1: Brown had 26 win shares in '98, which is just insane for a pitcher. At the ASB, Peavy had 12 and CY had 11. Neither will catch Brown, but one or both could crack 20, which would be impressive. #9: I'd rather not. ;-) #18: Klesko and Nevin aren't good comps for Cameron; different positions, different body types. I think Finley is more instructive in this case. I also maintain that Giles still has value; if nothing else, he almost single-handedly brought the Padres back to the playoffs in '05. #46: You are correct, Malcolm, about the number of WS. These were through 6/28. The THT numbers have been updated through the ASB since I wrote this, and the Padres are credited with 15 more WS (I'm guessing there's a rounding error in there somewhere).<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60868">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> #1: Brown had 26 win shares in ‘98, which is just insane for a pitcher. At the ASB, Peavy had 12 and CY had 11. Neither will catch Brown, but one or both could crack 20, which would be impressive.

#9: I’d rather not. ;-)

#18: Klesko and Nevin aren’t good comps for Cameron; different positions, different body types. I think Finley is more instructive in this case. I also maintain that Giles still has value; if nothing else, he almost single-handedly brought the Padres back to the playoffs in ‘05.

#46: You are correct, Malcolm, about the number of WS. These were through 6/28. The THT numbers have been updated through the ASB since I wrote this, and the Padres are credited with 15 more WS (I’m guessing there’s a rounding error in there somewhere).

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]]> By: SDSUBASEBALL http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60603 SDSUBASEBALL Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:06:28 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60603 56: So was Antonelli<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60603">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 56: So was Antonelli

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]]> By: Steve C http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60572 Steve C Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:17:31 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60572 Huffman was on this roster: http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=t_ros&did=milb&cid=510 yesterday afternoon, but he is not now, maybe it was a typo.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60572">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Huffman was on this roster:

http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....mp;cid=510

yesterday afternoon, but he is not now, maybe it was a typo.

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60496 LynchMob Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:34:02 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60496 31 ... Sogard is playing for Eugene tonight ... http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_07_11_eveasx_eugasx_1 ... milb.com does show him going 0-for-3 in 1 game for Portland ... huh.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60496">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 31 … Sogard is playing for Eugene tonight …

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_eugasx_1

… milb.com does show him going 0-for-3 in 1 game for Portland … huh.

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60492 LynchMob Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:23:01 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60492 And at Lake Elsinore ... http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_07_11_lncafa_lesafa_1 ... Huffman with HR #15!<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60492">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> And at Lake Elsinore …

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_lesafa_1

… Huffman with HR #15!

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60491 LynchMob Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:22:00 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60491 Plenty of offense at San Antonio tonight ... http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_07_11_sanaax_mroaax_1<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60491">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Plenty of offense at San Antonio tonight …

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_mroaax_1

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]]> By: Malcolm http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60481 Malcolm Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:22:41 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60481 Antonelli is still with the Storm. He just missed a HR this minute- has a walk and a hit.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60481">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Antonelli is still with the Storm. He just missed a HR this minute- has a walk and a hit.

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]]> By: Malcolm http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-2#comment-60474 Malcolm Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:44:41 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60474 25. Glad YOU brought that up. Anyone, is it correct that Kouz only played 111 game at 3rd in the minors and none last year? See The Baseball Cube data. I'm guessing he's OF- bound.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60474">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 25. Glad YOU brought that up. Anyone, is it correct that Kouz only played 111 game at 3rd in the minors and none last year? See The Baseball Cube data. I’m guessing he’s OF- bound.

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]]> By: SDSUBASEBALL http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-1#comment-60473 SDSUBASEBALL Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:29:35 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60473 48: Interesting, both Huffman and Antonelli are not on the SA Missions roster anymore. It was in MiLB.com a couple hours ago when I posted it.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60473">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 48: Interesting, both Huffman and Antonelli are not on the SA Missions roster anymore. It was in MiLB.com a couple hours ago when I posted it.

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]]> By: Malcolm http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html/comment-page-1#comment-60468 Malcolm Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:14:03 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/07/fun-with-win-shares.html#comment-60468 LM, Your reference is to expeced wins using a variation of the Pythagorean Theorem which is based on runs scored and runs scored upon. As I understand it WS, by it's nature, should always be 3x runs scored. Except for 2007, all years on Geoff's chart conform to that ratio. Possibly the WS and runs for 2007 were computed at different times.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60468">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> LM, Your reference is to expeced wins using a variation of the Pythagorean Theorem which is based on runs scored and runs scored upon. As I understand it WS, by it’s nature, should always be 3x runs scored. Except for 2007, all years on Geoff’s chart conform to that ratio. Possibly the WS and runs for 2007 were computed at different times.

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