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		<title>By: Masticore317</title>
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		<dc:creator>Masticore317</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't mind picking up Burke or Bush.

What about the Indians, do they have anything we'd want for Linebrink?  They are in need of pen help badly...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-61130"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t mind picking up Burke or Bush.</p>
<p>What about the Indians, do they have anything we&#8217;d want for Linebrink?  They are in need of pen help badly&#8230;
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		<title>By: SDSUBASEBALL</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBASEBALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>58:  I guess i didnt like what I saw, maybe it just looked like injury to me I dont know.  He has good stuff, just wasnt as high on him as most.
54:  I cant stand Jeff Passan, he flip flops all over the place all year.  He is right this time around on most of the contracts, but earlier in the year when all these signings were happening he was saying the complete opposite.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60972"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>58:  I guess i didnt like what I saw, maybe it just looked like injury to me I dont know.  He has good stuff, just wasnt as high on him as most.<br />
54:  I cant stand Jeff Passan, he flip flops all over the place all year.  He is right this time around on most of the contracts, but earlier in the year when all these signings were happening he was saying the complete opposite.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>56: Carrillo struck out a hitter per inning his first year without going to short-season or low-A. He lost some velocity and command when his elbow got hurt, but before then he had very good stuff. 4 seamer touched 96-97, heavy 2 seamer than could run 91-92, curveball average to plus.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60971"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56: Carrillo struck out a hitter per inning his first year without going to short-season or low-A. He lost some velocity and command when his elbow got hurt, but before then he had very good stuff. 4 seamer touched 96-97, heavy 2 seamer than could run 91-92, curveball average to plus.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>54: I mentioned Jennings and Harden above, and as Ben said, Harden's probably not even on the table. What about Dave Bush? His peripherals are good, even if his ERA is high. Of course the problem is the Brewers don't need anything we can give them. Bringing Jennings and Loretta over would be a nice solution.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60970"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>54: I mentioned Jennings and Harden above, and as Ben said, Harden&#8217;s probably not even on the table. What about Dave Bush? His peripherals are good, even if his ERA is high. Of course the problem is the Brewers don&#8217;t need anything we can give them. Bringing Jennings and Loretta over would be a nice solution.
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		<title>By: SDSUBASEBALL</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBASEBALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>53:  Yes, exactly.  If thats thier plan, they should be going with higher risk higher upside guys in later picks.
I have never really been a big Carrillo fan.  When I saw him pitch I was never that impressed.
54:  Yes, we need a gap, or average hitter that will be able to help manufacture runs.  A guy that doesnt strike out much.  I really like Loretta, but Burke is a good option as well.  Burke can play almost anywhere, including CF and hes got decent speed&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60969"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>53:  Yes, exactly.  If thats thier plan, they should be going with higher risk higher upside guys in later picks.<br />
I have never really been a big Carrillo fan.  When I saw him pitch I was never that impressed.<br />
54:  Yes, we need a gap, or average hitter that will be able to help manufacture runs.  A guy that doesnt strike out much.  I really like Loretta, but Burke is a good option as well.  Burke can play almost anywhere, including CF and hes got decent speed
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52: That's just not a very smart way to spend money. What's the payoff for a college pitcher who hits the wall in High A or AA versus a high school kid who fails at Low A? Many times the high-upside HS kid will have more trade value because other teams can still dream about what he might become. Now, sometimes the collegian will be worth more in trade because he can put up good numbers at higher levels, but overall there's no real benefit in trade value from going one way or the other. 

Baseball players have such a long development process, and there's so much attrition among pitchers, you can't fritter away time building a mediocre base. If he stays healthy, Peavy will be the best starting pitcher the Padres have ever employed. He could easily leave after 2009. Does anybody see a likely replacement?  A lot could change between now and then. We might have a terrible season and be able to draft a great college arm. We might make a blockbuster deal to get one. But ideally you'd have 5 or 6 potential aces now just to get 1 to the majors. Back in 2001 we had Peavy, Baxter, Phillips, and Serrano, all with big upsides. In 2002 Tankersley, Howard, Perez, and Cyr joined the list. Stuff happens.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60967"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>52: That&#8217;s just not a very smart way to spend money. What&#8217;s the payoff for a college pitcher who hits the wall in High A or AA versus a high school kid who fails at Low A? Many times the high-upside HS kid will have more trade value because other teams can still dream about what he might become. Now, sometimes the collegian will be worth more in trade because he can put up good numbers at higher levels, but overall there&#8217;s no real benefit in trade value from going one way or the other. </p>
<p>Baseball players have such a long development process, and there&#8217;s so much attrition among pitchers, you can&#8217;t fritter away time building a mediocre base. If he stays healthy, Peavy will be the best starting pitcher the Padres have ever employed. He could easily leave after 2009. Does anybody see a likely replacement?  A lot could change between now and then. We might have a terrible season and be able to draft a great college arm. We might make a blockbuster deal to get one. But ideally you&#8217;d have 5 or 6 potential aces now just to get 1 to the majors. Back in 2001 we had Peavy, Baxter, Phillips, and Serrano, all with big upsides. In 2002 Tankersley, Howard, Perez, and Cyr joined the list. Stuff happens.
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A look back at the free-agent signings ...

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjF8UifreSgXnbeNSFErom0RvLYF?slug=yhoo-midtermreportcard&#38;prov=yhoo&#38;type=lgns

... and I completely agree with this sentiment: "There were mistakes. Lots of them. There were successes. Though not nearly as many."

These are lists that glad are devoid of Padres ... ie. I was happy then and am still happy that the Padres passed on the free agent class of 2007 ... and I'm still hoping they make either one big trade or a coupla small trades for the stretch run.  I'm going along with the folks saying that a "big bat" trade is now optional ... I'd rather just upgrade Blum and/or NOG and/or Germano/Wells.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60964"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A look back at the free-agent signings &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AjF8UifreSgXnbeNSFErom0RvLYF?slug=yhoo-midtermreportcard&amp;prov=yhoo&amp;type=lgns" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns</a></p>
<p>&#8230; and I completely agree with this sentiment: &#8220;There were mistakes. Lots of them. There were successes. Though not nearly as many.&#8221;</p>
<p>These are lists that glad are devoid of Padres &#8230; ie. I was happy then and am still happy that the Padres passed on the free agent class of 2007 &#8230; and I&#8217;m still hoping they make either one big trade or a coupla small trades for the stretch run.  I&#8217;m going along with the folks saying that a &#8220;big bat&#8221; trade is now optional &#8230; I&#8217;d rather just upgrade Blum and/or NOG and/or Germano/Wells.
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		<title>By: Tom Waits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Waits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50: Let me add that Carrillo was a great college pick. Very good stuff and polished, other teams worried about his size (while Roy Oswalt shuts them out time and again). Yes, he blew out his elbow, and the Padres bear at least some responsibility for that (way too many innings his rookie year), but a lot of 6'4" 230 pound pitchers have TJ scars too. Schmidt, LeBlanc, good combination of stuff and polish, no problems there. 

However, if you're going to buy government bonds with those very early picks, STOP drafting the Andy Underwoods and Josh Geers in the middle rounds. When your organization is loaded with finesse types, why even bother spending 500,000 on another one? 

Oh, and Cesar Ramos got 950K. So even less cheap.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60963"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50: Let me add that Carrillo was a great college pick. Very good stuff and polished, other teams worried about his size (while Roy Oswalt shuts them out time and again). Yes, he blew out his elbow, and the Padres bear at least some responsibility for that (way too many innings his rookie year), but a lot of 6&#8242;4&#8243; 230 pound pitchers have TJ scars too. Schmidt, LeBlanc, good combination of stuff and polish, no problems there. </p>
<p>However, if you&#8217;re going to buy government bonds with those very early picks, STOP drafting the Andy Underwoods and Josh Geers in the middle rounds. When your organization is loaded with finesse types, why even bother spending 500,000 on another one? </p>
<p>Oh, and Cesar Ramos got 950K. So even less cheap.
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		<title>By: SDSUBASEBALL</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBASEBALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50:  I think a big reason fir this is that our drafts have been SOOOO bad that they are trying to build a decent farm system without too many risks for flops.  I totally agree we need to take higher upside players, but i think because our pitching is strong right now they are trying to build a good base.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60962"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50:  I think a big reason fir this is that our drafts have been SOOOO bad that they are trying to build a decent farm system without too many risks for flops.  I totally agree we need to take higher upside players, but i think because our pitching is strong right now they are trying to build a good base.
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		<title>By: SDSUBASEBALL</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDSUBASEBALL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 00:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>49:  My point exactly with CY.  He has turned into a great #2 starter and he was a "polished college player" so I guess I am just saying there is a chance the pitchers we have been drafting can develop into #1 or #2 guys.  I like our guy this year.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-60961"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>49:  My point exactly with CY.  He has turned into a great #2 starter and he was a &#8220;polished college player&#8221; so I guess I am just saying there is a chance the pitchers we have been drafting can develop into #1 or #2 guys.  I like our guy this year.
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