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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/two-hit-wonder.html/comment-page-2#comment-51315</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to MGL's UZR, Cameron was the best Center Fielder in the NL last year and Giles was the best Right Fielder in the Majors.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51315"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to MGL&#8217;s UZR, Cameron was the best Center Fielder in the NL last year and Giles was the best Right Fielder in the Majors.
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		<title>By: Les Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg</title>
		<link>http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/two-hit-wonder.html/comment-page-2#comment-51313</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 00:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I listened to some of Manual on XX today as well. I'll admit that I didn't know about the surgery either. And while shoulder-surgeries scare the hell out of me, if Manuel dismissed it, it's probably dismissable... His lack of K's still worry me - HUGE red flag, but maybe the recovery was why...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51313"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I listened to some of Manual on XX today as well. I&#8217;ll admit that I didn&#8217;t know about the surgery either. And while shoulder-surgeries scare the hell out of me, if Manuel dismissed it, it&#8217;s probably dismissable&#8230; His lack of K&#8217;s still worry me - HUGE red flag, but maybe the recovery was why&#8230;
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRAFT CHAT ... I listened to some of John Manual (from BA) on XX earlier today (post #44) ... he was VERY high on Joe Savery, LHP, Rice ... which prompted me to ask a friend of mine who's a HUGE Rice fan and, I've found, is a very good judge of baseball talent ... here's what he said (after reading this comment at BP http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6306) ... 


I agree that the game vs. TCU was his best of the year—he wasn’t blowing them away but was clearly in control of the game.  I didn’t realize he’d had any surgery… sounds like maybe some sort of scope procedure.  I also didn’t realize he was hitting 96 mph against TCU.  It seems like he’s been low 90s all year, which is good enough to get to the majors if you’re a good lefty and can hit your spots with all 3 pitches.  My observation is he tends to get his off-speed pitches up or in the dirt, but against college hitters that’s usually good enough.  I still say he doesn’t have the toughness of a Townsend, the polish of a Humber, or the overpowering stuff of a Niemann.  So they’re thinking maybe a sandwich pick… I guess if he hit 96 that’s not unreasonable.  And I suppose you could say that earlier in the year he didn’t have his best stuff but was still very effective, which is a positive indicator…

 

... one reason this is of interest to me is that Savery got taken by the Mock-Padres in the Sickles Mock Draft recently ... with pick #57 ... ymmv ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51311"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DRAFT CHAT &#8230; I listened to some of John Manual (from BA) on XX earlier today (post #44) &#8230; he was VERY high on Joe Savery, LHP, Rice &#8230; which prompted me to ask a friend of mine who&#8217;s a HUGE Rice fan and, I&#8217;ve found, is a very good judge of baseball talent &#8230; here&#8217;s what he said (after reading this comment at BP <a href="http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6306" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballprospectus......cleid=6306</a>) &#8230; </p>
<p>I agree that the game vs. TCU was his best of the year—he wasn’t blowing them away but was clearly in control of the game.  I didn’t realize he’d had any surgery… sounds like maybe some sort of scope procedure.  I also didn’t realize he was hitting 96 mph against TCU.  It seems like he’s been low 90s all year, which is good enough to get to the majors if you’re a good lefty and can hit your spots with all 3 pitches.  My observation is he tends to get his off-speed pitches up or in the dirt, but against college hitters that’s usually good enough.  I still say he doesn’t have the toughness of a Townsend, the polish of a Humber, or the overpowering stuff of a Niemann.  So they’re thinking maybe a sandwich pick… I guess if he hit 96 that’s not unreasonable.  And I suppose you could say that earlier in the year he didn’t have his best stuff but was still very effective, which is a positive indicator…</p>
<p>&#8230; one reason this is of interest to me is that Savery got taken by the Mock-Padres in the Sickles Mock Draft recently &#8230; with pick #57 &#8230; ymmv &#8230;
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>82 ... I don't necessarily disagree with you ... the key reason I'm saying what I'm saying is that Antonelli was VERY highly regarded a year ago ... ie. he was a FIRST round pick ... and now he's doing well in High-A ... I don't know that Huffman has yet done enough to pass Antonelli in the perceived-ceiling-competition ...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51310"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>82 &#8230; I don&#8217;t necessarily disagree with you &#8230; the key reason I&#8217;m saying what I&#8217;m saying is that Antonelli was VERY highly regarded a year ago &#8230; ie. he was a FIRST round pick &#8230; and now he&#8217;s doing well in High-A &#8230; I don&#8217;t know that Huffman has yet done enough to pass Antonelli in the perceived-ceiling-competition &#8230;
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		<title>By: Mark Ase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Ase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd think Huffman would have more value then Antonelli...especially for an American League team&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51309"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think Huffman would have more value then Antonelli&#8230;especially for an American League team
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		<title>By: LynchMob</title>
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		<dc:creator>LynchMob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>79 ... BINGO, PF  (or is it LN now?) ... I think Steve's post (#77) helps me make my point ... the perception from prior to the start of this season is that all our prospects are in "Low Minors" ... and clearly Headley has improved his stock to be a legitimate chip in a trade of the magnitude that we're talking about (ie. for a BIG GUN).  And I'd bet that Antonelli is right on the border of being such a chip (much moreso than the other guys at Lake Elsinore) ... 

In fact, if we do make such a trade, I'm betting that we'll see MUCH gnashing-of-teeth here for giving up a prospect as good as Headley for a "3-month rental" ... my point is that I'm up for that ... this 2007 Padre team is THAT close to being a team that can go all the way ... they are very poised to trade a lot of potential-future-value for a lot of now-stud-bopper-value.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51308"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>79 &#8230; BINGO, PF  (or is it LN now?) &#8230; I think Steve&#8217;s post (#77) helps me make my point &#8230; the perception from prior to the start of this season is that all our prospects are in &#8220;Low Minors&#8221; &#8230; and clearly Headley has improved his stock to be a legitimate chip in a trade of the magnitude that we&#8217;re talking about (ie. for a BIG GUN).  And I&#8217;d bet that Antonelli is right on the border of being such a chip (much moreso than the other guys at Lake Elsinore) &#8230; </p>
<p>In fact, if we do make such a trade, I&#8217;m betting that we&#8217;ll see MUCH gnashing-of-teeth here for giving up a prospect as good as Headley for a &#8220;3-month rental&#8221; &#8230; my point is that I&#8217;m up for that &#8230; this 2007 Padre team is THAT close to being a team that can go all the way &#8230; they are very poised to trade a lot of potential-future-value for a lot of now-stud-bopper-value.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see post 78, all im saying is that you cant get alot for A ball prospects, let the storm guys play in AA for a few months and have the same kind of success and then they will become the kind of trade bait that can get you the guys mentioned.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51307"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see post 78, all im saying is that you cant get alot for A ball prospects, let the storm guys play in AA for a few months and have the same kind of success and then they will become the kind of trade bait that can get you the guys mentioned.
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		<title>By: Les Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>77: Headley's in AA and as Alderson on XX today, once a guy is having success in AA he's essentially MLB-ready. Now do we have a lot of guys like him? Of course not, but let's not get all 'doom &#38; gloom' on us...&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51306"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>77: Headley&#8217;s in AA and as Alderson on XX today, once a guy is having success in AA he&#8217;s essentially MLB-ready. Now do we have a lot of guys like him? Of course not, but let&#8217;s not get all &#8216;doom &amp; gloom&#8217; on us&#8230;
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the only chips the pads have at the moment are Hensley/Germano, any and all of the relivers in AAA and Headly.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51305"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the only chips the pads have at the moment are Hensley/Germano, any and all of the relivers in AAA and Headly.
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		<title>By: Steve C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: 76 they are “legitimate prospects” but they are still A ball prospects and A Ball prospects dont get the players you just mentioned.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-51304"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: 76 they are “legitimate prospects” but they are still A ball prospects and A Ball prospects dont get the players you just mentioned.
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