IGD: Padres vs Orioles (20 Jun 07)

Wed, Jun 20, 2007Ballhype: hype it up!
by Geoff Young
Game #70
time: 7:05 p.m. PT
tv: 4SD
sp: Justin Germano (5-0, 2.36) vs Jeremy Guthrie (3-1, 2.57)
pre: Padres.com, SI.com

At some point, Justin Germano’s complete inability to miss bats has to catch up to him, right? Here’s hoping that it doesn’t happen tonight.

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115 Responses to “IGD: Padres vs Orioles (20 Jun 07)”

  1. Ben B. Says:

    He actually missed some bats in his last start! 4 k’s in 6 innings. If he can sustain that rate, that would be enough to be a successful major league pitcher.

  2. Richard Says:

    Who is the guy that doesn’t like the Barrett trade? Was it a Cubs fan?

  3. Phantom Says:

    Did anyone just see the Tejada/Greene comparison channel 4 showed? As of tonite, Khalil is out homering Tejada, has more RBIs than Tejada, and is slugging for a higher percentage than Tejada.

    So no, don’t trade Khalil for Tejada.

  4. Richard Says:

    3: Tejada’s OBP is something like 80 points higher, though.

  5. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    I can’t wait to see Barrett take the backstop.

    #3: Agreed

  6. Rich Campbell Says:

    Ok, who jinxed Justin?

  7. Stu Says:

    Geoff, is it too early to ask if you might have jinxed Germano’s ability to miss bats? That was a quick first run.

  8. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    #7: Make that quick two runs.

  9. Ben B. Says:

    Regression to the mean is swift and fierce.

  10. Stu Says:

    9 - that’s both brutal and hilarious. Get Hampson up.

  11. Pelotero 47 Says:

    Following the game in Gamecast. Were the two doubles to left field balls that an average LF fielded?

  12. Richard Says:

    9: That would be funny if we weren’t losing 3-0.

  13. Richard Says:

    11: No.

  14. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    It only takes one ‘Oh *******’ to ruin 1000 ‘Attaboys.’

  15. Steve from Boston Says:

    Wow, just came over here in the hopes of figuring out what’s going on with this start by Germano. And the answer was right there on the first line of the blog: Geoff jinxed them.

  16. Pelotero 47 Says:

    Thanks Richard….

  17. Richard Says:

    Germano appears to have found the outside corner.

  18. Richard Says:

    .833 BABIP tonight. That’s rough.

  19. Stu Says:

    11 - Nope. First was just inside third and fetched up against the corner of the seats, and the second was a line drive fairly deep that Branyan didn’t have a chance to field.

  20. Richard Says:

    That sure looked like a swing to anyone watching the game.

  21. Richard Says:

    20: Didn’t matter because he struck him out again on the next pitch.

  22. Richard Says:

    Justin’s got that curveball working now.

  23. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    Maybe ‘Geronimo’ will settle in.

  24. Ben B. Says:

    All of a sudden Germano has found it. Or, he survived the first four Oriole hitters who are decent and now gets to feast on their crappy bottom of the order.

  25. Richard Says:

    Ground ball, ground ball, line drive, line drive, walk, pop fly, strike out, strike out. That isn’t three runs most days.

  26. Phantom Says:

    Let’s hope the Padres offense can replicate last nite’s affair. Germano needs to throw curves down all nite.

  27. Richard Says:

    Baltimore is 8th in the Majors in Defensive Efficiency.

  28. Ben B. Says:

    26: Guthrie’s nowhere near as bad as Trachsel, unfortunately.

  29. Mark O Says:

    Long way to go thankfully….

  30. Pelotero 47 Says:

    re 19: thanks Stu

  31. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    GY: You jinxed it man

  32. Richard Says:

    Germano sure does have four strikeouts tonight.

  33. Ben B. Says:

    Geoff didn’t jinx it; Germano’s missing all kinds of bats with 4 k’s through 2.

  34. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    4 hits in a row to go along with those 4 K’s haha, lets hope he gets through 6 and thats all he gives up.
    Bats need to wake up! Lets see some of last nights magic

  35. Rich Campbell Says:

    this kid has an easy motion for 98…

  36. Ben B. Says:

    A large part of last night’s success was due to the crappiness of Trachsel and the Orioles’ bullpen. Guthrie, and actually the rest of the Orioles’ rotation, is pretty good.

  37. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    Guthrie is throwing smoke. 98 mph, Sheesh.

  38. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    GAS! Quite a different look from Trachsel

  39. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    36: Then we gotta beat up the ‘pen

  40. Ben B. Says:

    39: Absolutely. Taking pitches and working counts to get the starter out as soon as possible is a must tonight and tomorrow.

  41. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    Come on Headley, bust out the San Antonio big bat

  42. Richard Says:

    Branyan has walked in 17% of his Plate Appearances this year. That’s pretty nice.

  43. Richard Says:

    Headley battled.

  44. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    Yup and he just got under that pitch

  45. Ben B. Says:

    Much better inning there. 25 pitches thrown by Guthrie.

  46. Phantom Says:

    Good AB by Chase. Guthrie busted him inside on a good fastball to induce the flyout.

    Nice swing by Khalil. I noticed he almost rolled his ankle coming out of the box, but he’s looking comfortable at the plate right now.

  47. Ben B. Says:

    45: Should add that’s 25 pitches thrown in the second, 33 total.

  48. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    Nice quick inning for Germano

  49. Richard Says:

    47: Another inning like the second would be nice. We need to get Guthrie out of there asap.

  50. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    49: Except this time get a run

  51. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    Nice help your own cause

  52. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    Nice to see a pitcher get a knock once in a while.

  53. Ben B. Says:

    Justin Germano has someone been really good with the bat this year. He’s now hitting .429.

  54. Richard Says:

    52: In 11 PA this year, Germano has two singles, a double and an unintentional walk to his credit.

  55. Ben B. Says:

    Coming into the game Germano was 10th on the team in offensive VORP.

  56. Masticore317 Says:

    How’s Headley look so far?

  57. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    Ben, Richard, my comment was generalistic. Most people expect an easy out from the pitcher. Jake isn’t bad at bat, nor CY.

  58. Mark O Says:

    Jim Palmer for the Aflac trivia question…

  59. Pelotero 47 Says:

    Since being called up, and from what I have seen, he has looked well.

    He went 1-10 in the Chicago series, but it might well have been 3-10. In his first at bat he was robbed by Floyd in a flyball to LF and in his last at bat of the series, he missed a double on the first base side by inches.

    I did not saw yesterday’s game, but in his first at bat he battled several fastballs, before flying to left.

    I guess that in my opinion he has not been overmatched and he has seen a good number of pitches each at bat.

  60. Masticore317 Says:

    59 - thanks for the info. Tough to get an idea just reading the box score

  61. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    #58: Sorry.

  62. Mark O Says:

    #61: I gave it a shot…

  63. Mark O Says:

    “don’t you have to have a couple of dumb guys who can play?” Quote of the night….

  64. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    The offense needs to make this right.

  65. Richard Says:

    Germano is pitching a hell of a game.

  66. Richard Says:

    That hit both of them. haha

  67. Richard Says:

    Headley chased a couple in that AB.

  68. Pelotero 47 Says:

    (67) Agree, makes me look bad after my comment in 57.

  69. Ben B. Says:

    Padre hitters are third in the major leagues in strikeouts this year, but also 7th in walks. It would be nice to see more of the latter and fewer of the former now.

  70. Mark O Says:

    Hey boys…how bout some runs this inning…..

  71. Ben B. Says:

    Cruz has seen 5 pitches in 3 at bats. You’re not helping, Jose.

  72. Ben B. Says:

    In the inning where they should have been extending Guthrie to the point of getting someone up in the bullpen, the Padres make three outs on 8 pitches.

  73. Mykl Says:

    3rd overall in SO’s? I didn’t know tha’ holy hell that guy’s got a gun! Perfect placement just like last night.

    Alright then, 3 innings for 3 runs. There’s time

  74. Steve C Says:

    why will black not let Germano pitch more than 6 innings

  75. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    I can’t believe A-Gone recovered to get that one!

  76. Ben B. Says:

    This stuff frustrates me so much. You desperately want to run up the pitch count to get the starter out and involve the bullpen, and Bard pops out on a 2-0 pitch.

  77. Ben B. Says:

    After throwing 73 pitches through 5, Guthrie has breezed through the 6th and 7th with 17 pitches. If the Padres see the bullpen at all tonight, it’s only going to be for one inning.

  78. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    74: he was at 100 pitches

  79. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    Why was Brocail still in the game?

  80. Steve C Says:

    Re: 79 because they are down 4 nothing and cameron pitched yesterday and there is no way black would let him go back to back days

  81. Mykl Says:

    #80 + day game + Wells = rest the bullpen… could be.

    (Guthrie pitching a witch of a game)

  82. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    This is really, really bad. To add insult to injury, Black is bringing in Silent L for Khalil.

  83. Ben B. Says:

    We actually had a decent chance of coming back until Brocail gave up all these runs, given the Orioles bullpen. That would have required forcing Guthrie to throw more than 10 pitches next inning though, which probably wouldn’t have happened.

  84. LynchMob Says:

    Wow, this game’s no fun … let’s take a look around the minors …

    At AAA, the Portland Beavers are making like the Oregon St Beavers (dig 8) ) so far …

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_freaaa_1

    LaForest with HR #15 … hmmm, that’s some pop … but BA is only .211 and OBP only .325 …

  85. Phantom Says:

    I’m a little worried that this series has slipped away from us tonite. No offense to Boomer, but I had already written off tomorrow’s game as a loss. Unless Erik Bedard decides to suck, we’re not gonna get out of this series with a win.

  86. LynchMob Says:

    At AA, Chase Headley’s replacement, Brett Bonvechio, hit his 4th HR in as many days …

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_coraax_1

    … and Sean Thompson had a decent start.

  87. Ben B. Says:

    85: The Orioles bullpen is so bad that almost no deficit is too great, as long as we get Bedard out of there after 7 innings.

  88. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    Well, at least it won’t be a shutout.

  89. Ben B. Says:

    Russell Branyan is awesome. Good work by Black to keep working him in the game in left and also giving Headley at bats at third.

  90. Phantom Says:

    I gave up on the game, how’d we score a run?

  91. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    #90: Solo HR by Branyan.

  92. Mykl Says:

    way to catch up with it, Branyan

  93. Phantom Says:

    91: Thanks much. At least we avoid the shut-out.

  94. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    We have way too many relievers to let Brocail pitch that long when we were only down 3-0 to after his first inning. Go to Cameron, stop letting Brocail pitch more than one inning, I dont get managements love affair with Brocail.

  95. Ben B. Says:

    DIPS didn’t like the Padres tonight. 9 k’s for both sides, two walks by the Padres against one for the Orioles, and only homer in the game allowed by the Orioles. And yet the score is 7-1 Orioles. Grasping at straws and finding moral victories is not nearly as much fun as winning.

  96. LynchMob Says:

    No games in the Cal League nor Midwest League tonight … it’s All-Star break there …

    One of the new kids in the lineup is the short-season A-ball Northwest League and our Eugene Emeralds …

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_spoasx_1

    Danny Payne, our 6th pick in this year’s draft (#64 overall, as an CF’er from Georgia Tech), has now walked 7 times in the first 2 games of the season … YOW!!! … and he’s still found time to get a hit … and steal 2 bases …

    2 HRs for Zach Brown, a 27th round pick out of The Citadel …

    Lots of other good offense and pitching as the Ems are up 11-1 in the 8th …

  97. Rick Schroder (Turbine Dude) Says:

    If KG was still in, that would have been a DP.

  98. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    95: Look at your hits column, K’s and walks dont matter if you dont hit and the other team does

  99. Ben B. Says:

    Kevin Cameron is getting killed by his defense the past two nights.

  100. Phantom Says:

    97: Those are the kinds of intangibles that some people fail to take into consideration with Khalil. It’s not that he doesn’t have a ton of errors, it’s that he just makes plays that aren’t outs or are hits with other guys.

  101. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    97: Naw, Markaikis is too quick, but he would had gotten the guy at second.

  102. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    99: Yet he still hasnt allowed a run

  103. LynchMob Says:

    The youngest team in the Padres organzation, the AZL Padres, don’t start their short-season until Friday … http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....mp;cid=410

  104. LynchMob Says:

    Chris Gomez taught B(l)um everything he knows about hitting!

    Gomez was B(l)um before B(l)um was cool!

  105. Ben B. Says:

    98: Research has been done showing pitchers have little control over balls put in play against them. They can strike guys out, they can avoid walking them, they can avoid giving up home runs, but once the ball is put into play, there’s nothing they can do. The Padres’ pitchers have done a good job the past two days of striking guys out, not walking guys, and not giving up home runs. They just gotten killed on balls in play, which is partly bad luck, partly bad defense, and partly good hitting by the Orioles.

  106. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    105: The whole start of the first inning Germano made bad pitches, he left them up. He can control that and hitters can control a pitch left up in the zone much better. After than he settled in and made good pitches keeping the ball down. Brocail on the other hand…
    The Orioles are a good hitting team. The Padres couldnt locate thier pitches in key situations.

  107. LynchMob Says:

    B(l)um is the tieing run … just fyi …

  108. LynchMob Says:

    Lots to tidbits here …

    http://www.nctimes.com/article....._19_07.txt

    OG update … sounds like he’s healing … perhaps a few rehab games with the Storm this weekend …

    KK says he’s “noticeably better” … and Black said Kouzmanoff would return to the lineup when healthy and it was “likely” Headley would return to the minors.

    And Bud and GY have a disagreement brewing …

    Manager Bud Black said he’d like to see RHP Jake Peavy pitch in the All-Star Game if he’s selected, even if it means the team has to work around it. “I want our guys to play,” Black said.

    … and I side with GY on this one … we need for Jake to get real W’s and rest … period.

  109. LynchMob Says:

    84 … check that … LaForest with 2 HRs tonight … #s 15 and 16 … that’s a lot of HRs … just sayin’ …

  110. Bruce Says:

    Brocail = Other Team’s HVC

    To continue the analogy, I propose implementing an embargo on Brocail. Can I get a second?

  111. Geoff Young Says:

    Just got home. That was a lame effort, but Germano rebounded nicely after the rocky start. If he can strike out seven batters every time I jinx him, I’ll have to do that more often. 8)

    Also, Jeremy Guthrie looked real good. I had no idea…

  112. SDSUBASEBALL Says:

    110: SECOND!

  113. St. Oops Says:

    Bud’s quote about the all-star game pisses me off. If you’re the Devil Rays and your ace makes the show, you work the rotation to make sure he can go out there and enjoy the reward.

    But we’re not the freaking Devil Rays. We’re in a very heated race in one of baseball’s toughest divisions. Every game counts.

    Oh well, at least Jake’s never had a poor showing after exhibition games before. Oh wait…

  114. Masticore317 Says:

    Hey, Jake pitching well in the all star game is one step closer to home field advantage in the world series.

    Hmmm…maybe I’m thinking too far ahead…

  115. Didi Says:

    LM: Good luck to the Beavers repeating. I hope they do it.

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