IGD: Padres vs Orioles (19 Jun 07)
Tue, Jun 19, 2007
by Geoff Young
| time: | 7:05 p.m. PT |
| tv: | 4SD |
| sp: | Jake Peavy (8-1, 1.82) vs Steve Trachsel (5-4, 3.94) |
| pre: | Padres.com, SI.com |
You can find stats anywhere. Describing and analyzing those stats adds value. Presenting them in a graphical format that gives a quick overview of key indicators potentially provides further value. The concept of a “dashboard” is stolen from the world of web analytics.
Jake Peavy Dashboard (click image for larger version)
I’m developing this for possible use in next year’s book. I don’t know if it’s worth pursuing, but it might be. What do you think? It’s still in early alpha, so any feedback is appreciated. Be as brutal as you need to be.
Go Padres!
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June 19, 2007 at 6:20 pm
I’ve honestly gone back and forth trying to decide if these graphs represent Peavy’s performance as a pitcher or a hitter … I guess I’m more into the data than the graphs, in general …
Let’s go JAKE!
June 19, 2007 at 6:26 pm
Leblanc stays on the BA PHS … http://www.baseballamerica.com.....64317.html
June 19, 2007 at 6:33 pm
http://www.nctimes.com/article....._18_07.txt
Padres sign picks … Kulbacki & Payne … and …
The team also announced the signing of its fifth-round selection, right-handed pitcher Jeremy Hefner whom they thought slipped in the draft because of “signability issues.” The 6-foot-4 pitcher from Oral Roberts University has a 93-94 mph fastball and could be a steal.
… which sounds like some spin, if you ask me, but I’m hoping he’ll be ready to pitch on Sunday (in Eugene, with me present
).
June 19, 2007 at 6:37 pm
2: I hope that’s a wrong sentence:
“his walks-to-strikeout ratio has been impressive: 33-to-1 over his last 27 innings” because that’s not very good at all.
June 19, 2007 at 6:37 pm
I like the graphs. I use stuff like that at work every day to plot and trend data. If you choose to go with it, color would be great. Maybe add a section to the next book with some of the nicknames and other blogisms we create in here and their background. And above all, a GLOSSARY! Thanks Geoff. Go Padres.
June 19, 2007 at 6:37 pm
Hey, this is a good-lookin’ lineup …
M. Giles 2b 0.263
J. Cruz Jr. rf 0.264
A. Gonzalez 1b 0.297
M. Cameron cf 0.250
J. Bard c 0.252
R. Branyan lf 0.230
K. Greene ss 0.229
C. Headley 3b 0.100
J. Peavy p 0.226
June 19, 2007 at 6:40 pm
3: Have fun at the game on Sunday. We want reports back.
June 19, 2007 at 6:41 pm
#6: I meant INDEX. Sorry, I’m very tired.
June 19, 2007 at 6:46 pm
Geoff, I love the stats and the graphics. I cant be brutal. It’s not in me.
PS. I have 2 tickets for Friday Nights Game. If anyone is looking to buy tickets. I can’t go.
Field Reserved Section 115, Row 37
June 19, 2007 at 6:49 pm
6: And that lineup by wOBA
1: .329
2: .331
3: .388
4: .324
5: .305
6: .372
7: .307
8: .147
9: .262
.332 is league average and the stat is not park adjusted.
June 19, 2007 at 6:50 pm
#9: You are very nice to offer those tix in here. The Sox games will more than likely sell out. What are you asking for them?
June 19, 2007 at 6:52 pm
10: And because I’m bored that lineup by runs above replacement (PA):
1: 18.13 (290)
2: 13.35 (208)
3: 38.12 (305)
4: 16.15 (286)
5: 6.44 (183)
6: 10.04 (93)
7: 9.98 (264)
8: -1.50 (11)
9: -0.38 (34)
June 19, 2007 at 6:53 pm
11: I believe they have already sold out.
June 19, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Josh Phelps was DFA’d by the Yankees. He’s a solid right handed hitter and would be a good righty bat on the bench. As the roster is presently constructed, there’s not really a spot for him, but if we got rid of that extra 12th pitcher he’d be worth the bench spot.
June 19, 2007 at 6:55 pm
#13: You are correct, Richard.
June 19, 2007 at 6:56 pm
#14: Get rid of Silent L.
June 19, 2007 at 6:58 pm
Turbine Dude,
I have no idea what the asking price is. You can see where the seats are. Normally they are $45 each. I would rather have a Ducksnorts fan go enjoy than someone else.
June 19, 2007 at 7:02 pm
#17: Send me an email at rickschroder@sbcglobal.net (which will probably be rickschroder@cox.net by tommorow night, but send anyway.).
June 19, 2007 at 7:03 pm
#1, 5: Thanks for the feedback, guys. I may throw more versions of these out there in the future.
#9: You are way too kind, SDG.
#14: Phelps is sort of a poor-man’s Craig Wilson. Interesting idea, but I suspect it won’t happen…
June 19, 2007 at 7:08 pm
So, who is the probable starter for CY on Friday?
June 19, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Alright NOG! Nice double to start the game.
June 19, 2007 at 7:20 pm
This is the first time I’ve seen Trachsel pitch, and through three pitchess he has worked quite rapidly.
June 19, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Bunting?!!?!? Against a horrible pitcher, when Cruz can advance the runner with just a pulled ground ball?
June 19, 2007 at 7:21 pm
Hey Geoff - I think the graphs are a great start. I generally prefer not to use pie-charts, as my thinking is that there are other charts (e.g. bar charts) that can be more useful in relating “relative significance” among multiple fields.
June 19, 2007 at 7:23 pm
TD, Just sent you an email.
June 19, 2007 at 7:24 pm
How poorly did the left fielder play that ball that NOG hit?
June 19, 2007 at 7:25 pm
That was low and inside for that last strike call.
June 19, 2007 at 7:25 pm
A G-Slam from Cammy would be nice right now.
June 19, 2007 at 7:26 pm
I think the ump feels sorry for Trachsel.
June 19, 2007 at 7:26 pm
#25: OK, thanks.
June 19, 2007 at 7:27 pm
#26: Everybody was fooled and really thought it was gone.
June 19, 2007 at 7:27 pm
I think that I would also suggest using normal 2-D line charts instead of 3d. It’s just my opinion, but 3d is a bit distracting and also someone limits the usefulness of the graph by making it a bit more complex to display actual data (for instance, you can actually list the column total on the top of each bar, which helps if you might want to multiple variables against two different y-axis(s))
Anyway, I think the stats are good and I’m just being a bit picky stylistically.
June 19, 2007 at 7:28 pm
crap, that was supposed to read “might want to PLOT mutliple variables…”
June 19, 2007 at 7:29 pm
no…
June 19, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Yuck. What is the opposite of clutch?
June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
35: Unlucky?
June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Yuck… A double play. Rally killer!
June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
#24, 32: Thanks, Marsh. This is very useful.
June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
36: In Bard’s case, I would say, since I thought that ball was going through. In Cameron’s case, I have no idea.
June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
That was pretty bad…Cameron got caught looking at 2 fastballs right down the middle. We just needed something in the air from either one of them.
June 19, 2007 at 7:31 pm
oof. anyone know the probability of loading the bases with no outs then *not* scoring?
June 19, 2007 at 7:32 pm
#36: LOL. Okay, I’ll accept that answer.
June 19, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Wow. That was awful. How does Cameron strike out looking with the bases loaded?
June 19, 2007 at 7:32 pm
GY, The opposite of clutch is obviously anyone who bats for the Padres with less than two outs and a runner on third.
June 19, 2007 at 7:34 pm
38: you’re definitely welcome.
June 19, 2007 at 7:36 pm
SDG: “Youv’e Got Mail.”
June 19, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Jake Peavy’s wOBA allowed is basically Geoff Blum.
June 19, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Geoff - *love* the charts. Here’s how I might do the “events” chart for multiple pitchers; make it a stacked bar chart where all the columns total to 100%. That way, you can compare guys and how they get their outs (Ks, flies and grounders if the data is available) and who gives up a lot of walks / HRs. I’d play with the vertical scale (maybe have the X-axis cross at 40%, assuming all the pitchers on the chart get outs more than 40% of the time) so the smaller categories get more space.
This is easy for me to say, of course - I’m not the one doing the data gathering and chartsmanship!
June 19, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Peavy looks really, really good. His control was a little off in the first, but his fastball is moving like crazy, and it looks like the ump is going to give him a generous outside corner.
June 19, 2007 at 7:37 pm
#41: This chart puts it at ~12%:
http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/users.....druns.html
June 19, 2007 at 7:38 pm
32: Hmm, that must have been what’s buggin me about the right side of the dashboard, the 3D chart. Geoff, I agree with Marsh that the 2D would be better.
The Padres didn’t score? What the heck? Urgh.
June 19, 2007 at 7:39 pm
50: That sounds about right. I’d be willing to bet the % is lower with a team’s cleanup hitter the next up to bat.
June 19, 2007 at 7:39 pm
48: in my opinion, that’s a great suggestion.
June 19, 2007 at 7:39 pm
TD, Thanks, just let me know.
June 19, 2007 at 7:40 pm
Ooh, nice job by Khalil staying on the ball and driving it up the middle.
June 19, 2007 at 7:41 pm
#48: Awesome! Anything goes at this point; we’ll figure out what’s practical later. I definitely would like to get fly outs and ground outs in there as well. Unfortunately most places that provide GB/FB data include all balls put in play and not just outs. No worries, we’ve got time on our side.
June 19, 2007 at 7:41 pm
SDG, will do.
June 19, 2007 at 7:41 pm
41 - dang, Geoff, you are good.
53 - gracias. I’ve spent too much time with PowerPoint in recent years, so this sort of idea comes far too easily.
June 19, 2007 at 7:42 pm
56: I want to say ESPN gave a GB/FB out ratio, but I’m not sure.
June 19, 2007 at 7:42 pm
As long as we’re talking Boston Tix, I have a pair in the upper boxes on the third base side for Sunday that are extras… I have them on StubHub at $70 each, I’d take $40 from a DS hookup…
June 19, 2007 at 7:43 pm
So if you’re Joe Girardi…do you take this job or sit out the year and wait to see what else is open in the offseason?
June 19, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Jake gets it done (Gitter done).
June 19, 2007 at 7:45 pm
58: what do you do?
June 19, 2007 at 7:48 pm
63 - I work for a bank now, but used to work for a consulting firm, which was all PowerPoint, all the time. honestly, you were evaluated on how many charts you could produce.
June 19, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Oh yeah NOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 19, 2007 at 7:49 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSS NOG
June 19, 2007 at 7:49 pm
NOG visits the porch. Very nice!
June 19, 2007 at 7:49 pm
Leave the stinkin’ fences where they be!
June 19, 2007 at 7:49 pm
There we go! That eases the pain of the first inning!
June 19, 2007 at 7:50 pm
63: ironic. I just started up with a consulting firm this week for my summer internship during business school.
excuse me: go NOG!
okay, back: which consulting firm??
June 19, 2007 at 7:50 pm
NOG!
June 19, 2007 at 7:50 pm
3 Runs = Padre win
June 19, 2007 at 7:51 pm
Trachsel won’t make it to the fifth…
June 19, 2007 at 7:52 pm
Sorry, my math is off…
Jake pitching + 3 Padre-runs = Padre win
June 19, 2007 at 7:53 pm
70 - that’s awesome. Best of luck w/ the internship. Work smart and be friendly and your chances of getting an offer should be quite good. I used to work for Mercer Management Consulting, before they changed the name to Oliver Wyman. Good firm, but it was not what I wanted to do with my life. I got tired of being on the road 25 days a month.
June 19, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Headley scored his first career run on the NOG homer.
June 19, 2007 at 7:54 pm
72: The Padres are 7-6 in games where they score exactly 3 runs.
June 19, 2007 at 7:55 pm
76: Speaking of Headley, it’s nice to see him having quality PAs.
June 19, 2007 at 7:55 pm
77: Guess, the Padres must score more runs, even with Jake on the mound.
June 19, 2007 at 7:56 pm
79: We’re 4-6 when we score exactly 4, though.
June 19, 2007 at 7:57 pm
75: Very interesting. I just heard about that merger this week (I guess I’ve been out of the loop). I’m working with Bain Consulting this summer. Ironically, my brother Clayton, who also spends a pretty good amount of time on this site, took a position with Mercer Mgmt Consulting after graduating from business school in 2000. Unfortunately, though, they closed his entire office during the downturn in 2001.
June 19, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Is anyone watching the Az St vs. UC Irvine game?!?! I know, most are watching the pads (I’m watching it on my computer), but the CWS is on ESPN2 and it’s an amazing game. Bases loaded, 1 out, bottom 11…. Irvine at the plate….
June 19, 2007 at 7:58 pm
sorry, bottom 10.
June 19, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Irvine Wins!!!
June 19, 2007 at 7:59 pm
#58: No, I just know where to look for stuff.
#61: Sit and wait.
More chart thoughts. I think you guys are right about 2d vs 3d. I got cute with that, and I should know better. Simple is good. Regarding use of color, my one concern is printing cost, but I’ll look into it.
June 19, 2007 at 7:59 pm
UC Irvine just won.
June 19, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Woo-hoo Irvine!
June 19, 2007 at 8:03 pm
Is the Human Rain Delay looking to make a liar out of me with that fifth inning crack now?
June 19, 2007 at 8:04 pm
It’s really impressive that our lineup can strike out 3 times in 3 innings against a guy that came in striking out 2.67 per 9 IP.
June 19, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Record by Runs Scored:
0: 0-1 (.000)
1: 3-5 (.375)
2: 3-6 (.333)
3: 7-6 (.538)
4: 4-6 (.400)
5: 3-4 (.429)
6: 2-0 (1.000)
7: 9-0 (1.000)
8: 2-0 (1.000)
9: 2-0 (1.000)
10: 1-0 (1.000)
11: 4-0 (1.000)
June 19, 2007 at 8:07 pm
89: As an addendum to that: there is nothing wrong with strikeouts as long as they are accompanied by power and patience. And the Padres have a homer and three walks in three innings, so todo as bueno.
June 19, 2007 at 8:08 pm
90: Exactly half of our wins have come in games where we scored six or more runs.
June 19, 2007 at 8:09 pm
We’re 20-28 when scoring five or fewer runs.
June 19, 2007 at 8:11 pm
#89-93: You guys are hurting my brain after a very long day at work.
June 19, 2007 at 8:13 pm
OT: Got my Tony brick yesterday. Very nice.
June 19, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Richard, see #74, what happens when Jake’s pitching
(I was just being silly, but I bet adding Jake to the equasion changes things.)
4 now… Nice.
June 19, 2007 at 8:14 pm
Right on Khalil !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You da man!
June 19, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Very nice Khalil….
June 19, 2007 at 8:16 pm
96: I know, but I thought it was interesting.
June 19, 2007 at 8:16 pm
I thought Chase was gonna go also. Damn.
June 19, 2007 at 8:18 pm
Three Major League teams are undefeated when scoring six or more runs (Padres, Red Sox & Dodgers).
June 19, 2007 at 8:18 pm
I love that commercial with Mud and Matty V…
June 19, 2007 at 8:22 pm
That was a fun inning.
June 19, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Jake is dealin tonight…
June 19, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Isn’t it nice that we are able to have fond memories of guys like Ramon Hernandez and Dave Roberts instead of resenting them for tying up valuable resources?
June 19, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Jake’s stuff looks so incredible tonight. That last pitch looked like it dropped 80 deg. Sheesh.
June 19, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Yep….was thinking the same thing…what a good choice not to bring Ramon back. Great guy and he was fun to watch, but he just can’t seem to stay healthy
June 19, 2007 at 8:25 pm
#105: I miss those guys. But then again, hell I miss Ricky Henderson (entertainment value).
June 19, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Chances that Peavy is the All-Star game starter?
June 19, 2007 at 8:27 pm
I hated Rickey Henderson before he became a Padre and now he’d probably be in my top 5 all time favorite Padres players
June 19, 2007 at 8:27 pm
109: got to be pretty good at this point…
June 19, 2007 at 8:28 pm
I have to agree about Ramon and Dave, and I was a huge advocate of bringing Ramon back and I freely admit it…
June 19, 2007 at 8:29 pm
109: Way too high. Hopefully he starts right before the All-Star break and so can’t actually pitch in the game.
June 19, 2007 at 8:30 pm
#110: It was always fun to listen to him talk about himself in the 3rd person. Kinda like listening to Yogi. Made me feel like the Aflac duck. LOL
June 19, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Man, even Adrian’s outs are loud.
June 19, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Cammy is just not seeing the ball well tonight… I hope he snaps out of it but he just looks off to me.
June 19, 2007 at 8:33 pm
110: I’ll never forget opening day 1997 when Rickey got arguably the biggest ovation from the sell out crowd at Qualcomm…came up as a pinch hitter and hit a HR and then took his sweet time getting around the bases.
June 19, 2007 at 8:33 pm
Nice blooper over the 5.5
June 19, 2007 at 8:33 pm
#116: He made a nice adjustment there, and some great hustle to get into second base.
June 19, 2007 at 8:34 pm
116: I was just about to type that I agreed with you and Cameron had looked pretty bad. Glad for Cameron to prove us wrong.
June 19, 2007 at 8:35 pm
#73: You were close, Rich.
June 19, 2007 at 8:36 pm
119-120. Sometimes it’s all about realizing it and making the adjustment. I’d like to think that was what Cammy did… but it never upsets me to be wrong on something like that!
June 19, 2007 at 8:37 pm
I love Rickey. Got to see him a couple times when he played for the Surf Dawgs:
http://www.geoffreynyoung.com/gfx/rickey03.jpg
June 19, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Nice.
June 19, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Trachsel bugs me… I hate that super slo-mo approach. I’m always glad when he leaves the game. That might be memories of my knees hurting while I wish a guy would get on the mound and just throw the %$&#@ rock, too…
June 19, 2007 at 8:41 pm
#123: He had character. And, if he got on base…OMG it was a circus act meant to drive pitchers crazy trying to keep track of him.
June 19, 2007 at 8:49 pm
A bit late to the game…
Re 35: hctulc, but I have no idea how to pronounce it.
Re Rickey, He was a great time, and loved his attitude about setting the runs scored record. Not a flashy stat, but for a hitter, particularly a lead-off hitter, what is more important? And he was always good for an entertaining quote. One of my favorites had to do with practicing “landing softly” when sliding so he wouldn’t hurt himself stealing bases…
June 19, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Nice grab by Cheo. That was a little scary.
June 19, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Well, that could have been much worse with Tejada and Huff there… but they are in slam range now. I think Jakes emotions hurt him again on the 3-2 pitch to Markakis. One out from getting off easy here…
June 19, 2007 at 8:51 pm
#127: When asked was he does best, he said ‘Ricky gets on.’
June 19, 2007 at 8:52 pm
by the way, anyone know what our record is pre-/post-OG’s departure from the active lineup?
June 19, 2007 at 8:53 pm
Jeez….i stop focusing on the game and all hell breaks loose….
June 19, 2007 at 8:53 pm
Oh no. That was not good.
June 19, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Ouch…spoke a little too soon there. That was a nasty turn of events.
June 19, 2007 at 8:58 pm
There wasn’t a single ball hit decently that inning.
June 19, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Way more difficult than it needed to be.
June 19, 2007 at 9:00 pm
I’d feel a little more comfortable if we could get another run or two.
June 19, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Some Keystone Cop plays that cost 3 runs.
June 19, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Well, it is what it is.
June 19, 2007 at 9:01 pm
#131: We were 23-20 after OG’s last game 5/19. We are 17-8 since then.
June 19, 2007 at 9:03 pm
#140: Things that make you go…Hmmm?
June 19, 2007 at 9:03 pm
I don’t think Matty and Tony realize how good the Baltimore rotation has been. I’d say Mazzone has done a great job with them. Now, the bullpen, not so much.
June 19, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Glen H. a little greedy? Dunno.
June 19, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Hard to blame Chase on that… it took a fantastic throw to get him. Of course, we follow that with a bloop single. *shrug*
June 19, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Re Graphs:
Geoff, I agree with the 2d vs 3d statements. How did you choose these particular stats? One I think might be interesting to track is “swing-and-miss per pitch” or something like that.
June 19, 2007 at 9:09 pm
140: Thanks…. While there might not be a real correlation, the difference in record is definitely interesting…..looks like we were 5-3 in the 8 games leading up to and including OG’s last game (not including the 4 previous games when we lost 3 of 4 from the Braves)
June 19, 2007 at 9:09 pm
Girlie Mouth with a steal. Nice.
June 19, 2007 at 9:13 pm
Nice bit of hitting there by Cruz…
June 19, 2007 at 9:13 pm
In Brian Giles’ absence, our rightfielders are hitting .219/.292/.323, so it’s Giles being out is not helping us.
June 19, 2007 at 9:14 pm
That’s a big run there… could be crucial.
June 19, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Snaked that 3.5 hole for one. And a pitching change.
June 19, 2007 at 9:16 pm
#149: However, look at the W-Ls, not the position %.
June 19, 2007 at 9:17 pm
81: well done there, Marsh. what office are you in?
love Rickey. one of the funniest Sports Illustrated artciles I ever read was about him, by Tom Verducci back in 2003. Verducci basically collected Rickey quotes and stories and I couldn’t stop laughing. the John Olerud story might be the best. I looked for the article, but it’s not readily available online.
June 19, 2007 at 9:17 pm
149: .292 OBP out of a corner outfield position is rough.
June 19, 2007 at 9:18 pm
152: That’s in spite of our missing Giles as you can tell by the lack of production we’ve gotten from his vacated position.
June 19, 2007 at 9:18 pm
A-Gone just gave me a warm fuzzy feeling.
June 19, 2007 at 9:19 pm
What exactly is low for Tony? He has described everything above the kneecaps as up.
June 19, 2007 at 9:19 pm
And an error to help us along.
June 19, 2007 at 9:19 pm
We’re 9-0 when scoring 8 or more runs…
June 19, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Cammy is soooooooo happy to see someone besides HRD… he was all over that.
June 19, 2007 at 9:20 pm
157: Presumably, low would be the kneecaps and below.
June 19, 2007 at 9:21 pm
158: Yahoo has that down as a hit? The scorer trying to help Cammy’s average a bit?
June 19, 2007 at 9:21 pm
161: Touche.
June 19, 2007 at 9:22 pm
162: It was a tough play.
June 19, 2007 at 9:23 pm
A meat run. Wow.
June 19, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Didn’t they just show the Orioles bullpen being horrific lately?
June 19, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Get the HVC up.
June 19, 2007 at 9:24 pm
nice wedge Khalil
June 19, 2007 at 9:24 pm
wow. save some for tomorrow night, fellas.
June 19, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Ok, I consider this appropriate payback for our poor luck in the top of the inning.
June 19, 2007 at 9:25 pm
The Orioles are starting to look like the Bad News Bears.
June 19, 2007 at 9:26 pm
171: Hopefully they can keep it up through the rest of the series.
June 19, 2007 at 9:26 pm
167: You beat me to it, but he should pitch in this game. Hampson is up again.
June 19, 2007 at 9:28 pm
Is it just me, or does Mud look like Uncle Fester in that Valley View Casino commercial?
June 19, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Geoff, why am I being moderated?
June 19, 2007 at 9:32 pm
Freddie Bynum must look a little like Alfonso Soriano if you’re squinting at him from 60′6″
June 19, 2007 at 9:35 pm
That’s an impressive piece of hitting by Markakis. Man, there’s a young player to build around! What an arm on that throw to get Headley…
June 19, 2007 at 9:38 pm
I guess it’s too late to trade Hampson while he had an ERA under 1. I wonder if they’ve got interest in Kevin Cameron…
June 19, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Even though it goes against us, it’s nice to see an ump make the right call.
June 19, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Not a laugher anymore.
June 19, 2007 at 9:39 pm
If Hampson is the Human Victory Cigar, there’s a joke involving gasoline waiting to be made.
June 19, 2007 at 9:42 pm
#181: As long as it doesn’t involve Monica Lewinsky.
June 19, 2007 at 9:43 pm
#175: Sorry, bud; it happens sometimes.
What’s up with all the runs? This is weird.
June 19, 2007 at 9:44 pm
HVC = Kevin Cameron
Nice for Cla… gets us out of the inning and is a real confidence boost as well…
June 19, 2007 at 9:45 pm
184: My bad, I thought Hampson was our Darko. Kevin Cameron may make an appearance yet…
June 19, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Bocachica gets my vote for unluckiest hitter on the team. He has crushed some pitches lately and had very little to show for it.
June 19, 2007 at 9:46 pm
Dang, Patterson looked like he almost took the wall out when he hit it.
June 19, 2007 at 9:49 pm
186: He would taking that title away from Kouzmanoff. Can Kouz lose his title while he’s injured? Isn’t that the ultimate example of bad luck?
June 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm
#145: BZ, I was trying to give one representation of power and one of plate discipline. Other metrics I’ve considered include XBH%, PA/HR, BB/K, P/PA, OBP/BA. Maybe something involving GB/FB/LD data.
June 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm
Hey, a Chris Gomez sighting!
June 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm
wow…a Chris Gomez sighting…
June 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm
OK, I gotta try and watch the rest of this in the bedroom. See you all tommorow. Go Padres.
June 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm
beat me to it GY
June 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm
I think Matty V summed it up well…the members of that 98 team will be heroes forever in the minds of Padres fans…
June 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm
194: Except for Kevin Brown.
June 19, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Amazing that Chris Gomez has had a 14 year ML career…Wow! I thought that he was on his last legs when he left the Friars…
June 19, 2007 at 9:56 pm
#195: A beautiful piece of irony in itself.
June 19, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Wow C. Gomez is THAT C. Gomez? Hopefully he got a nice ovation…
June 19, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Where does Gomez rank all-time among Padres shortstops? I’ve got Khalil, Tempy, Fernandez, and Ozzie ahead of him. Damian Jackson is close. Who am I missing?
June 19, 2007 at 10:01 pm
If Damian Jackson is close…he might be down far enough that it’s not worth counting
I remember when we acquired DJ from Cleveland. Man, I was excited. He was such a good athlete.
June 19, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Rob Bell? Paul Shuey? What, no Rob Beck?
June 19, 2007 at 10:04 pm
I really really hope that Black brings in HVC for the 9th.
June 19, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Did ya’all see that Jason Schmidt is having shoulder surgery. You’ve got to think that he won’t be back this year.
I’m not sure how much that weakens the Dodgers. I guess that it takes some depth away…nice call Peter on fighting against our signing Schmidt all off season long.
June 19, 2007 at 10:05 pm
I’m waiting for Roger Salkeld…
June 19, 2007 at 10:07 pm
199 - Geoff, that’s about it. Ricky Gutierrez is the only guy I can think of, without going back to the 60s and 70s. None of the Vazquez-Cruz-Jimenez trifecta deserve mention.
June 19, 2007 at 10:08 pm
199, again - I’ll cheat this time: http://www.baseball-reference....../pos.shtml
June 19, 2007 at 10:11 pm
Yeah, our history is kinda depressing sometimes. All-time leader in games at second base is Tim Flannery, all-time leader at third is Luis Salazar.
HVC!
June 19, 2007 at 10:12 pm
205: Yikes, I am certain during my time in SD I saw at least one game of each of those live. And a good dose of Damian Jackson, who could go from electric to frustrating in one swing of the bat. One of the only Padres who caused a sense of dread by hitting a home run. He usually went in the tank for at least a week after a dinger, swinging for the fences and popping out. I remember thinking Bochy should fine him for hitting one out. Then he would go and steal five bases in a game…
June 19, 2007 at 10:13 pm
206-
Looking at that list also reminds me of the high hopes that I had for Andujar Cedeno…ahh the early/mid 90’s
June 19, 2007 at 10:13 pm
#205: Speaking of Mendez, he just signed to play for the Newark Bears:
http://oursportscentral.com/se.....id=3490657
One more thing he has in common with Rickey…
June 19, 2007 at 10:13 pm
Do you guys remember Damian Jackson’s broken bat grand slam? (I think it was him.)
June 19, 2007 at 10:13 pm
208: I remember the sense of dread after Quilvio Veras hit a HR also…it was terrible. He would overswing for a month.
June 19, 2007 at 10:14 pm
#204: Salkeld? There’s a name I haven’t heard in a while. Nice one…
June 19, 2007 at 10:14 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.....tory_cigar
June 19, 2007 at 10:14 pm
Quilvio hit one on Opening Day one year and my grandpa turned to me and said, “It’s going to be a long year…”
June 19, 2007 at 10:15 pm
personally, I can’t help but smile whenever I see Enzo Hernandez name pop up, as it does at #2 in all time games played at short.
June 19, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Wow, that chart is a scary trip down memory lane. Talk about depressing history. Jeez. Wally Whitehurst…Scott Coolbaugh…Kevin Higgins. Who the hell was Kevin Higgins?
June 19, 2007 at 10:16 pm
Geoff-You have any interest in Corey Patterson for CF next year. One of the lesser known options. In the spirit of Andujar and Damian, it would be cool to have another incredible athlete. Maybe he could fulfill some of his early promise.
I remember fierce arguments with baseball fans about why Burroughs was a better prospect than Patterson…I guess that we were both wrong
June 19, 2007 at 10:16 pm
#211: I think it was this game:
http://www.baseball-reference......7140.shtml
June 19, 2007 at 10:17 pm
Jeez, both those hits were sharp liners, eh??? sad….
June 19, 2007 at 10:17 pm
C’mon HVC, let’s get this one over with.
June 19, 2007 at 10:18 pm
Two more baserunners and it’s a save situation.
June 19, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Okay, that’s better. Great play by Khalil to snag the high feed from NOG.
June 19, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Nice DP-
I thought for a minute that NOG had thrown that ball over Khalil’s head.
June 19, 2007 at 10:19 pm
222. Shut your mouth!
June 19, 2007 at 10:20 pm
arrrrgh…. AZ tied it up. Tony Clark.
June 19, 2007 at 10:20 pm
Great inning by Cameron. 4 easy groundballs.
June 19, 2007 at 10:20 pm
#225: It’s all good now.
Go D-Rays…
June 19, 2007 at 10:22 pm
212: Good call on Quilvio, same sense of dread. Damian stuck out a bit more because those post 98 teams were so hard to watch…
June 19, 2007 at 10:23 pm
Jake Now has the triple crown in NL.
June 19, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Padres are 1-0 when scoring 12 runs.
June 19, 2007 at 10:27 pm
227:
Good call-it looked scarier than it was. He did have a good inning.
June 19, 2007 at 10:27 pm
Khalil looks miserable on the postgame show. Poor guy, those are pretty bad questions. If you avoid the baseball cliches, you’re sort of out of luck.
June 19, 2007 at 10:28 pm
One of these days “the cigar” is gonna get “lit up” … perhaps not the best analogy … what a hilarious nick-name …
Stauffer and Stansberry with nice outings tonight …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....a_freaaa_1
June 19, 2007 at 10:29 pm
Rough estimate puts Peavy pitching in the All-star game on close to normal rest
June 19, 2007 at 10:38 pm
Great game by the boys in white with blue stripes. How about the error hung on the Orioles Left Fielder? He never touched it. If mental errors were a stat, wouldn’t Jose Canseco lead the majors?
June 19, 2007 at 10:50 pm
236: I think he has a fair bit of competition. For example, Ruben Rivera stealing a teammate’s (Jeter I think?) glove to sell on e-bay was approximately a 50,000-base mental error in one move.
June 20, 2007 at 6:52 am
Olney just reported we got Mike Barrett from the Cubbies!!!
Me likey!
June 20, 2007 at 7:14 am
Looks like we gave up Bowen and Kyler Burke according to Rosenthal:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....amp;ATT=49
June 20, 2007 at 7:18 am
FOX says we gave up Rob Bowen, Kyler Burke, and cash:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6941994
June 20, 2007 at 7:27 am
Why am I not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling about this move?
June 20, 2007 at 7:29 am
Re: 240 its an odd move but the padres did not give up much for it so it cant hurt.
June 20, 2007 at 7:33 am
I’m just wary of guys coming in that have a “bad clubhouse guy” reputation with a bunch of guys who really seem like they get along and like each other, who, by coincidence, play well together.
June 20, 2007 at 7:40 am
Re: 243 True but its not like the cubs club house was all the great to start with maybe if he comes in to a functioning club house on a winning team he will fall in-line (see Cory Dillon in New England).
I like bard behind the plate and that’s why I’m not enamored with this deal, I was also hoping that they would be working on the bigger problem in LF. But to give up a struggling A ball prospect and a backup catcher for a power hitting right handed bat I have to say it looks like a good deal.
June 20, 2007 at 8:01 am
I think it’s a good trade in one respect - The Pads have had terrible luck this season throwing out base-stealers, and Barrett throws out 40 % of them. I doubt Barret will be the starter - I think he and Bard will split time just like the situation now. I liked Bowen, but he’s not a tremendously useful player, defensively or offensively. I’m not terribly worried about the whole “clubhouse chemistry” thing either. Peavy is a hothead but nobody seems to mind. Overall a decent deal for SD - strengthening their catching corps without giving up much value.
June 20, 2007 at 8:21 am
The Eugene bullpen did an outstanding imitation of the Padres bullpen last night. Between Allen Harrington, Brandon Gomes and Jackson Quezada, the went 4.0 IP, 0 H, 0 BB and 4 K’s. John Hussey starts tonight.
The Barrett deal is fine with me, so long as he doesn’t start whining about playing time when he doesn’t start five days a week. Might there be another trade in the works involving Josh Bard? Seems odd to have two starting catchers on the same team.
June 20, 2007 at 9:28 am
I like the trade as long as Barrett is fine with platooning.