| time: | 11:20 a.m. PT |
| tv: | 4SD |
| sp: | Greg Maddux (5-3, 3.86) vs Rich Hill (5-4, 2.81) |
| pre: | Padres.com, SI.com |
I’m messing around with a Ducksnorts Glossary. People are jumping onboard all the time, and I thought it might be good to give ‘em an easy way to get up to speed. This is kind of just off the top of my head, so let me know what you think and if there’s anything we need to add.
Happy Father’s Day, and go Padres!

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A few suggestions for entries into the Ducksnorts glossary:
OG = Orange Giles (Brian)
NOG = Non-orange Giles (Marcus)
Girly Mouth/Small Mouht = Bocachica
Pepe Negro = Black
Silent L = B(l)um
DS = Ducksnorts
PPR = Padres Prospect Report
That’s all I got for now.
What’s the general thoughts regarding another fracas for today’s game? Anyone think that something will happen? Would Maddux intentionally throw at Lee for over-reacting yesterday?
Perhaps lost in yesterday’s fracas (best part of baseball brawls is getting to use words like melee and fracas) was the news that OG took a step forward in his rehab. He said he felt like he was turning the corner in his rehab, so hopefully we’ll have him back soon.
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070616&content_id=2029881&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd
I doubt Maddux would do anything dumb. The Cubs probably feel they were victimized twice (Peavy and Wells’ comments, Lee’s beaning) and Lou Piniella may order retaliation. I have no doubt that he was using the Padre comments to fire up his team before the game yesterday and will try to rally the troops today. I think there’s a very good chance they’ll throw at Adrian today.
3: If they do throw at Adrian, does Maddux have an obligation to throw back?
I can’t imagine that the Padres will instigate anything, but this year’s version of the Cubs seem to be a bit volatile, so who knows what will happen. I’ll also predict that Soriano’s behavior is going to cost his team at some point during the season.
#1: Thanks, Phantom. Those have been added.
5: Agreed about Soriano. He seems to irk a lot of his opponents.
#5: I agree about this Cub’s team being too volitile this year. The fans have become more agressive as well. Back in the day when I was a Cub’s fan living in the mid-west, we were probably the most mellowist fans. Not sure what happened since.
I’d love to see the Cubs starter go crazy and bean someone in the first inning so that we see 9 innings of the Cubs bullpen.
is it raining in chicago today?
never mind..i see that the game starts at 11:20
First three batters have hit the ball very hard. Wind is blowing in today.
And Cameron goes yard. Hill is looking very hittable.
Right on Cammy!
re: Soriano’s attitude…
did anyone else notice the “style” he put on the catch of Cruz’ fly ball? A little basket flip? That will cost…
*Grin* Mike Cameron, 2-0 Pads…
CAMERON! Nice way to put some runs on the board early today.
Man, Hill is VERY hittable today. Darn wind blowing in.
The wind blowing in has saved Rich Hill… if this game were to turn into a laugher it would increase the chance one of our boys gets thrown at…
…finishing thought above. The boys will have noticed Soriano’s ‘tude. And Greg WILL protect his teammates… I remember him nailing Leyitz.
typical: guy acts like a jerk and maybe costs them a game… big ovation. I haven’t looked at yesterday’s IGD… Did y’all reference that Lee’s spot in the lineup was the final out?
Great catch, Rich. Wow, I’m sure the Cubs would much rather have had Lee hitting there than Izturis.
Maddux gets away with one to Lee. Missed badly with location there.
#20: No, I don’t think we noticed that. Good point.
Congrats to Chase on his first big league hit!
Way to go Chase! First big league hit.
nice! first knock for Chase…
El Hombre!! 2 run shot!
Great AB by Cheo ahead of the Adrian homer.
That was one a blind man could have told you was gone…that special sound…
Another one by Cameron!
And Cammy goes yard again. Nice!
back to back jacks!
Jerry Coleman “Oh Doctor! It’s outta here! 4-0 Padres!”
“5-1 San Diego!”
Adrian! It’s awesome that Adrian has no problem hitting lefties like almost every other elite lefty hitter does.
And now, Mike! Whoa!
Now we will wait to see if the Cubbies will throw at us after having three shots drilled out of the yard.
You can’t ask for a nicer pitch to hit… if that wouldn’t have gone out I would have felt embarrassed for Cammy.
Geez, Bocachica crushed that ball.
Hiram searching for Waveland…
Hiram just crushes a ball foul, leaves the park, but foul nonetheless.
Hill is very lucky it wasn’t four homers. Bocachica just got out in front of that one. Put it on the street but foul.
Wayland, Waveland… help me out, gang. I don’t think I’ve ever been on that street sober…
#40: Waveland it is.
Andy Masur just said the scouts they have talked to have said Headley has more power right handed. His splits from last year seemed to indicate he was a better hitter left-handed, though.
The Cubs have a 13-man pitching staff? Yikes…
#42: I swear I heard Masur say the exact opposite yesterday. I wonder if Headley coming up so suddenly caught the announcers off gaurd with their scouting info.
Way to go Gonzo!!!
44: Hmm. Maybe he just got crossed up and meant against right handed pitching. Headley’s hitting record in the minor league clearly indicates he is better against righties, batting left-handed.
Maybe the Cubs should start beaning Adrian.
With each run we score, I grow increasingly concerned about retaliation.
Full-count breaking ball to Cammy. That is respect.
I’m with you GY, this has to be frustrating for the Cubs to get smacked around like this.
The fuse has now been lit…
Wow! Adrian is starting to paint a big target on himself. At least Cameron is creating a little bit of a diversion. This game just has a weird tense vibe to it today. Now Greene!!!
Khalil goes yard. It’s 9-1. Someone is going to get plunked before this one is done.
Khalil!!!!!!!! 9-1 Padres. “WInd? We don’t care about any stinking wind.”
GY, I also agree… We may see the frustration boil though now. I also wonder if we may look back at yesterday as one of those team-defining moments… brawls tend to get you focused on “these are my guys”… and THAT carries over beyond the series…
Nice 5th so far for us.
#54: I think so. There was no shortage of stupidity going around yesterday, but I like the way our guys responded. CY is one of the most mild-mannered players I’ve seen but he wasn’t going to back down from a pretty intimidating figure in Lee. And I love the way NOG went out to protect his pitcher. Brawls are a shame because they make everyone look like an idiot. That said, it’s good to see our guys stick together.
Game is now official.
Time for it to start pouring in Chicago.
Shoot, that would’ve been funny if Lee had gotten himself thrown out at third with his team down 9-1.
56: Stated perfectly.
Okay, Maddux survived the sixth. Time to bring in the bullpen scrubs.
Greg definitely loses effectiveness his third time through the lineup… but he still has been a great pickup. I so love this pitching staff!
Is the director getting a divorce or something? The last two days of crowd shots have been “find the hottie” central. Not that I’m complaining! Just noting it…
Brocail? How about getting HVC some work today?
#63: Ha! I have been laughing about the exact same thing! Chicago is definitely not lacking in that department it seems.
Shall we make bets on when Doug Brocail’s arm is going to fall off?
Where’s Bob? Can he validate our “Hottie search” observation?
Brocail hopefully will be limited to one inning and we can get the HVC finish the game.
Have a day, Cammy.
My hero today is Jerry Santos of Cox cable for getting my cable working agian so that I can watch the rest of the game.
Thanks Jerry!
Hottie in yellow bikini top.
Full count, 2 out smack for Rob!!!!!! 10-3
You know what this team needs right now? We need to acquire a big bat. At least, that’s what I heard on the radio the other day…
It’s Wrigley field tradition to throw the ball back.
Good situation to bring Cla into, but I hope we see HVC for the 9th.
Nice inning from Cla.
nice outing for Cla.
BTW, I still would like to see us acquire another bat… I just think that we be careful about it and don’t give up too much (’specially bullpen). Take a flyer on a guy or two and see if the change of scenery helps, that kind of thing.
I really like ‘Hottie Cam.’ :0
I’m surprised that Adrian hasn’t taken one in the ribs yet. Or Cameron for that matter.
A-Gone!!! What else can you say about this kid?
74. Tradition only goes so far.. if a dude does what that blonde did, he gets punched.
For those not watching TV, Bowen’s homer was being kept by the fan… until the crowd pressured him too much. A woman came up, argued with him and took his hat off his head and threw it.
I like respecting tradition… but I think it is more important to respect our fellow man.
I expect my choices to be left to me, and will leave others choices to them.
What’s that now, 10 total bases for Adrian? That’s a nice series for a lot of guys…
#81: The guy should’ve just threw it back. I didn’t see the blonde.
Nice score for Adrian and nice hit for Khalil.
82. 10 it is, and Cameron has 9.
Nice shot by Girlie Mouth.
And the HVC can’t even buy himself an inning in an 11-3 blowout
What???? No HVC???
and Hottie-cam continues
Wouldn’t this be a good time to use a reliever who doesn’t pitch much?
#87: I think the Hottie-cam thing is a good idea.
Nice! Referencing the Dodger-crowd brawl with that lady in the bleachers…
I don’t think even Bochy would use Linebrink in a situation like this.
Now that it’s about done, I have to tip my hat to the Cubs for apparently letting things blow over without incident. I have to admit I didn’t think they were professional enough to do that.
Game ova
Nice. It’s always good to see us win a series and view the Hottie-cam. Nice.
#92: Agreed. Props to the Cubs for letting it go. I did not expect that from them.
And the “Hottie-cam” is born
92,95: Yeah, I was expecting some more heat. Glad to see that did’nt happen. Good game by our guys.
I would pay good money to be able to have a 10-minute Q&A session with Bud about his usage of the bullpen.
Geoff, you gotta add ‘Hottie-Cam’ to your glossery.
Quick comments on Bud’s use of the bullpen today:
–HVC pitched on Wed and Fri; I also wonder if his wildness played a role (don’t want to escalate matters any).
–Linebrink hadn’t made an appearance in over a week (June 9), so I can see getting him some work in a blowout.
Padres with the best record in th NL. Sweet.
Hey, it’s ‘Padres Day’ today. Happy Father’s Day to all.
Dodgers down 4 to 1 in the 3rd. This day could get even better.
GY: good point about HVC’s occasional wild-ness. That coulda been a very bad thing.
4-2 road trip is excellent. Cubs were heating up (7 of last ten after Friday) so taking the series is a big deal.
Someone posted yesterday that it just seems like the Padres have not yet played up to their capabilities. feel similar. It is great that they have the best record in the NL but I actually think they are a lot better than their record.
Ayalya crusin’ thru 4 at Lake Elsinore today …
http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_06_17_bakafa_lesafa_1
100: Hey that’s not fair! You can’t use logic to defend Pepe Negro’s use of the bullpen! Haha, but in seriousness, those are two good points.
105: Agreed. I also think it would help if we had a team that wasn’t plagued by nagging little injuries and random illnesses.
I wonder what happens when OG comes back, do we lose Chica Boca? I hope not, I think he’s real useful especially since he can play 2B/3B as well.
I like CB — he’s made some really nice plays for us so far. I didn’t know he can play 2nd and 3rd. That’s a pretty useful guy right there.
When OG comes back, maybe P Mac is the odd one out. I don’t know, but he just seems to always be the one.
OK, P Mac is already out, didn’t notice that.
RE; 109
Don’t hold your breath on OG coming back anytime soon.
His mysterious bone bruise won’t be healed for another three weeks, at th earliest.
111: Did you see the link in 2? It sounds like he’s getting pretty close. I’d like to see Hampson sent down when OG comes off the DL and retain Headley to be the right handed bench bat. I could see arguments that that would be bad for his development and that he should be sent down to get regular playing time, but if we just focus on this year I think that gives us the best roster possible. What will probably happen is Headley going back down.
Lending credence to the argument that we haven’t really started firing on all cylinders is the Predicted OPS stat from the hardball times. It predicts what OPS for a player should be given his batted ball types and his walk, strikeout, and home run rates. Most of the Padres are underperforming their expected lines by a decent amount. Cruz, Adrian, and Bowen are the only guys with significant playing time overperforming.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/index.php?view=props&linesToDisplay=50&orderBy=props&direction=DESC&qual_filter=ignore&season_filter%5B%5D=2007&league_filter%5B%5D=2&team_filter%5B%5D=SD&pos_filter%5B%5D=All&Submit=Submit
A little BA perspective on the Chase Headley callup …
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospects/?p=376
Can someone tell me why the crap Arizona is playing the Orioles twice? And the Dodgers play the Blue Jays twice?
http://baltimore.orioles.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=bal
http://losangeles.dodgers.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=la
Hey here’s an idea MLB Schedulers, have the Orioles play the Diamondbacks once, then have them play the Dodgers once. And THEN have the Blue Jays play the Diamondbacks once and then play the Dodgers once.
Stupid schedulers.
Today the Padres showed Soriano five times how to react to hitting a HR. I don’t like to be overly sensitive type but that was pretty bush and I think Soriano’s defense in the papers was pretty lame. “I’ve always done that,” to paraphrase. Doesn’t mean it’s suddenly become offensive to some players. Does anyone else do that – backpedal?
BP looks at Adam Dunn wrt trades …
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6356
… I vote “go get him”.
Re:112
I would like to narrow the pitching staff down to 11 as well.
I think that the only way to justify keeping Headley at the Major league level is to, at the very least, platoon him at third. Otherwise, I think he deserves to be at the AA All-star game.
How about trading Brocail for a prospect?
112: I think that we’ve got to send Headley back down and take the long-term perspective. If he’s not going to play everyday, he’s not going to get better. If you’d like to talk about putting him in LF full time, that’s a conversation that I’d entertain.
117: I’m pretty sure that Brocail isn’t going to be worth much of a prospect…
By the way, did anyone see Prince Fielder hit the inside-the-park HR tonight? Wow, that big man can move.