Comments on: Bumps in the Road http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:46:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: The Fathers http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52708 The Fathers Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:55:14 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52708 re 41: Sounds good to me. If Khalil Greene is actually following that, is his certain zone "up and in" and the certain pitch he is looking for "offspeed"? He just never seems to get that one on the first pitch, and instead lets fat fastballs go right by. ;)<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52708">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> re 41: Sounds good to me.

If Khalil Greene is actually following that, is his certain zone “up and in” and the certain pitch he is looking for “offspeed”? He just never seems to get that one on the first pitch, and instead lets fat fastballs go right by. ;)

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]]> By: Less Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52695 Less Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:57:21 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52695 41: Not disagreeing w/ you - let's say, taking your point further... 1st pitch - look certain zone, certain pitch (usually fastball) - if you get your pitch crush it. 2nd pitch - if they got strike 1 on you, expand that zone a bit - if pitch one missed the strike zone, repeat 1st pitch tactic ...and so on...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52695">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> 41: Not disagreeing w/ you - let’s say, taking your point further…

1st pitch - look certain zone, certain pitch (usually fastball) - if you get your pitch crush it.
2nd pitch - if they got strike 1 on you, expand that zone a bit - if pitch one missed the strike zone, repeat 1st pitch tactic

…and so on…

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]]> By: The Fathers http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52693 The Fathers Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:30:53 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52693 Re: 38. Not much of a point, since all major league teams have similar numbers. It is generally not a good idea to swing at a first pitch unless you know that the pitcher is going to throw a get over/get ahead fastball. Pitchers will adjust if a team becomes first pitch swing happy. There are valid reasons to "automatically" criticize NOG's prediliction to swinging at first pitches in pretty much every at bat following his first, as well as when Khalil Greene does it. It really looks like they have made up their mind to swing before the pitch is even thrown. It is about plate discipline, and this year's Padres haven't shown much of it so far.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52693">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Re: 38. Not much of a point, since all major league teams have similar numbers. It is generally not a good idea to swing at a first pitch unless you know that the pitcher is going to throw a get over/get ahead fastball. Pitchers will adjust if a team becomes first pitch swing happy.

There are valid reasons to “automatically” criticize NOG’s prediliction to swinging at first pitches in pretty much every at bat following his first, as well as when Khalil Greene does it. It really looks like they have made up their mind to swing before the pitch is even thrown. It is about plate discipline, and this year’s Padres haven’t shown much of it so far.

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]]> By: Peter Friberg http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52688 Peter Friberg Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:50:14 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52688 Bruce, you're looking at it backwards... We liked Schmidt so much, we passed on Main, whom we also liked a lot...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52688">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Bruce, you’re looking at it backwards… We liked Schmidt so much, we passed on Main, whom we also liked a lot…

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]]> By: Bruce http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52668 Bruce Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:44:58 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52668 To change the subject, and I don't want to beat a dead horse here, (well maybe a little bit) but there was an interesting yet irritating tidbit in the UT this morning. It seems that Grady Fuson was disappointed that Main "got away." One might ask, well how could he have gotten away if you had the chance to snag him at #23? It seems the answer lies in the fact that the Padres would have drafted him as a center-fielder and not as a pitcher, which if I remember would have likely have meant that they placed a second round grade on him. I don't know what disappoints me more, that they liked him, or that they were not looking at him as a pitcher. The Schmidt pick has grown on me, but this doesn't help. Here's the link: http://tinyurl.com/269sar<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52668">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> To change the subject, and I don’t want to beat a dead horse here, (well maybe a little bit) but there was an interesting yet irritating tidbit in the UT this morning. It seems that Grady Fuson was disappointed that Main “got away.” One might ask, well how could he have gotten away if you had the chance to snag him at #23? It seems the answer lies in the fact that the Padres would have drafted him as a center-fielder and not as a pitcher, which if I remember would have likely have meant that they placed a second round grade on him.

I don’t know what disappoints me more, that they liked him, or that they were not looking at him as a pitcher. The Schmidt pick has grown on me, but this doesn’t help. Here’s the link:

http://tinyurl.com/269sar

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]]> By: MALCOLM http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52667 MALCOLM Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:59:45 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52667 The point is that we shouldnt automatically criticise guys for swinging at the first pitch. The numbers show where we'd be without first pitch hitting.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52667">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> The point is that we shouldnt automatically criticise guys for swinging at the first pitch. The numbers show where we’d be without first pitch hitting.

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]]> By: Less Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52665 Less Nessman a.k.a. Peter Friberg Tue, 12 Jun 2007 01:08:14 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52665 The good numbers on the first pitch are absolutely a function of being selective. If the guys swung at all the first pitchs, they wouldn't have that good of numbers...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52665">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> The good numbers on the first pitch are absolutely a function of being selective. If the guys swung at all the first pitchs, they wouldn’t have that good of numbers…

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]]> By: Richard http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52664 Richard Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:58:51 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52664 Not sure if everyone has realized it, but Kouzy has been by far our best hitter over the last 30 days. (.399 wOBA)<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52664">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Not sure if everyone has realized it, but Kouzy has been by far our best hitter over the last 30 days. (.399 wOBA)

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]]> By: MALCOLM http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52657 MALCOLM Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:33:00 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52657 Sorry, make that second 3-0,3-1.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52657">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Sorry, make that second 3-0,3-1.

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]]> By: MALCOLM http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html/comment-page-1#comment-52656 MALCOLM Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:27:38 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/06/bumps-in-the-road.html#comment-52656 One of the weird stats that is skewing the averages is 51 bb on 52 pa on 3-0 counts and 64 of 128 at 3-1. Are we that good at spoiling good pitches or are they afraid to lay one in there? BTW we are getting almost exactly the same # of 3-0&3-0 pa's this year as last(7.45%), so opponents aren't necessarily adjusting to the Padres patience ethic in that regard.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-52656">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> One of the weird stats that is skewing the averages is 51 bb on 52 pa on 3-0 counts and 64 of 128 at 3-1. Are we that good at spoiling good pitches or are they afraid to lay one in there? BTW we are getting almost exactly the same # of 3-0&3-0 pa’s this year as last(7.45%), so opponents aren’t necessarily adjusting to the Padres patience ethic in that regard.

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