first pitch: 4:05 p.m. PT
television: Channel 4SD
matchup: Greg Maddux (4-3, 4.20 ERA) vs Shawn Chacon (1-0, 3.38 ERA)
previews: Padres.com | SI.com
Greg Maddux has been terrible over his last two starts:
| IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | SO |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stats courtesy of Baseball-Reference. | ||||||
| 9.1 | 21 | 10 | 10 | 3 | 1 | 6 |
On the other side, Shawn Chacon has been terrible over, um, a little longer than his last two starts. Among other things, Chacon had one of the most unbelievable seasons in recent memory for the Rockies in 2004, when he saved 35 games despite a 7.11 ERA and 1.942 WHIP.
Not to belittle anything that Trevor Hoffman has accomplished, but if a guy like Chacon can pick up 35 saves in a season, maybe it’s time to rethink how that stat works. Goose Gossage was a great reliever, and he never saved 35 games in a single season.
Anyway, here’s hoping Maddux and Chacon both revert to form this evening. Go Padres!
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For those of you hoping for tonight’s game, it’s raining like crazy here in Pittsburgh . . . looks like at least 1 to 2 hour delay to start of game from what we are hearing.
Pads snagged Hiram Bocachica off waivers from the A’s today. Why not take a flyer on the guy if we’re just snagging him off the waiver wire? He is a right-handed outfielder… honestly, I don’t expect much out of him though…
Thanks, Bob, for the heads-up…
Glad to provide the weather update, sad to have to sit it out here. By the way, Hiram is gonna join the Padres in DC tomorrow, with a corresponding move to be announced then.
Altho’ it’s a nasty little T-cell, good news is that it appears to be moving out of the area very shortly:
http://www.weather.com/outlook/events/sports/map/interactive/15212?from=36hour_map_large&animation=true&zoom=7&interactiveMapLayer=radar
thanks for the update, Bob
Latest word from the pressbox . . . 7:50pm ET start time.
Bocachica isn’t a bad little pickup. A couple of +1000 OPS seasons in AAA and the versatility to play all of the OF spots and 3B or 2B in a pinch. This seems like a pretty good short term solution to our RH on the bench issue.
Here we go. P-Mac in the lineup again…
Yikes, that was quick. NOG down on three strikes.
Um, we’re not supposed to let Chacon strike out the side in order.
Both Adrian and Kouz have had trouble handling grounders in the first. Should be out of the inning; instead Maddux faces Bay. Wonder if the wet field is playing a part.
Yeah, this inning should be done. But Maddux seems to be back in his “let them cream the ball” phase.
OTOH, he did a great job of damage control.
Hey look, not a strikeout.
The Padres seem to have mentally checked out.
For those joining for IGD … lots of good discussion in today’s comments … http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2007/05/padres-sign-latos-beat-bucs.html#comments … I recommend it for between-inning entertainment
After 1 …
Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 17-14; S Chacon 14-10.
Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 1-1; S Chacon 0-0.
Batters faced – G Maddux 6; S Chacon 3.
Nats up 3-1 on Dogs …
Chacon should be happy that his BABIP is down to .500
Wilson credited with a hit on NOG’s boot.
Maddux lucked out again.
After 2 …
Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 32-22; S Chacon 33-22.
Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 3-2; S Chacon 0-1.
Batters faced – G Maddux 11; S Chacon 7.
… c’mon McAnulty … show ‘em whacha got!!!
19 … Nats tack on a run in bottom of 5th … now up 4-1 on Dogs …
OT – Corey Hart is batting leadoff for Brewers tonight … which is “OT” ‘cept Hart’s been the target of some covets in recent comments …
6 Ks the first time thru the lineup? That’s Shawn Chacon, boys!!!!
#22: Or, if you look at it a different way, he bailed out the defense again.
Re: “On the other side, Shawn Chacon has been terrible over, um, a little longer than his last two starts.”
Well…so much for that.
27: Again, you are our glass half dude.
29: Glass half full…
30 … I kinda liked “glass half dude” … not sure what it might mean, but we’ve got *some* creative folks here who can figure it out …
24 … Nats with 2 more … and still up in bottom of 5th … now up 6-1 on Dogs … boo-ya!
NOG and Bay playing Twister on that one.
Nady flashes his Padre roots
#27: And in a nice twist, the defense returns the favor by bailing out Maddux.
#29-31: You guys are killin’ me…
32: Is Tommy Lassorda pitching that game? Sheesh.
They should’ve used GY in those “Taste Great/Less Filling” commercials.
Thru 3 …
Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 46-29; S Chacon 44-29.
Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 5-3; S Chacon 1-2.
Batters faced – G Maddux 15; S Chacon 10.
… and Sledge gets us goin’ in the 4th … c’mon Adrian!
GY,
You’re fast. Hiram’s name is already over there to the right.
Rally Cap Time!!!
Ugh. This is starting out real stupid.
#39: Thanks for noticing, dprat.
40 … never mind
Thru 4 …
Pitches-strikes – G Maddux 57-36; S Chacon 62-40.
Ground balls-fly balls – G Maddux 6-5; S Chacon 3-3.
Batters faced – G Maddux 19; S Chacon 14.
… I’m outta here … you guys get to work and get some runs on the board!!!
Sportsline is charging an earned run to Maddux — how?
Here’s the sequence:
Jose A. Bautista: Strike looking, Ball, Bautista singled to center.
Chris Duffy: Ball, Duffy grounded out to first, Bautista to second.
Freddy Sanchez: Foul, Ball, Foul, Sanchez safe at first on 3rd baseman Kouzmanoff’s throwing error, Bautista to third.
Jason Bay: Strike looking, Foul, Bay hit sacrifice fly to left, Bautista scored.
Adam A. LaRoche: LaRoche singled to center, Sanchez to third.
Xavier Nady: Strike looking, Strike looking, Foul, Nady struck out looking.
Bautista advanced to 3rd on the error (would have been 2 outs) and scored on a sac fly (should have been 3 outs).
Anybody? Thanks.
Looks like the humidity is just making the long fly ball drop like rocks. Kinda like the hitting in Petco.
Which begs the question why everyone bags on Petco? On page 32 of the 2K7 Ducksnorts Annual, GY points out that the HR pct. is better at Petco than the Q.
#43: See ya, LM; we’ll do our best.
#44: They got it wrong; the run is unearned.
Now, why can’t they give away those BP jerseys on the 9th?
This could be our worst offensive showing so far of the year. This is really uninspiring. Pathetic comes to mind.
Maddux yelling ‘Goddamit!’ after that pitch. Audible on 4SD.
I wonder how many hits Adrian loses due to complete lack of speed.
#50: I was wondering the same thing. It’s like watching my mother-in-law run.
For those that have watched the whole game, has Chacon’s fastball looked as ordinary as that past inning? I can’t believe they aren’t slapping that straight pitch all over the place.
I haven’t watched or followed much of this game, but I felt it needed to be said again that getting striking out 10 times in 7 innings while generating 3 hits against Shawn Chacon is unbelievably pathetic.
Geoff Blum gets double switched in instead of Branyan? Please get here seen, Hiram Bocachica.
Nooooooo, not Silent L!
For a guy who has Danzig as his entrance music, Doumit is a pretty good hitter…
56: Whaddaya got against Danzig, Geoff?
Drat! I thought that was out.
Hmm, I have a double switch to make. We’re down by two runs going into the eighth inning, assuming my ace reliever holds the other team here. It’s pretty clear that my rookie third baseman is going to be the guy I switch out; he made the last out, and he’s having a tough day at the plate. Fortunately for me, third base is where my bench overflows. This replacement player will come up third next inning. I want him to have power, because there’s a decent chance he could have the opportunity to tie the game with a homer. I also want him to be able to get on base and start a rally if one hasn’t begun by the time he hits. Or, heck, if I’m really not feeling like analyzing stats and just want to go on the shiny numbers they put on the tv when he comes to the plate, I’ll pick the guy with the better batting average. Oh, and Pittsburgh’s go to guy for the eighth inning, probably the best pitcher in their bullpen, is right handed. Player number 1 is hitting .183/.275/.333. Player 2 is hitting .231/.355/.519. Player 1 is worse in every single category! Pssh, clearly player 2 is the guy I want to go with. But, wait, player 1 has pictures of me with KT’s wife. Plus, he got a hit in the 14th inning one time. All right, Silent L, you’re in.
Thank you A-Gone. Almost tied this up.
Adrian almost hit that out. Okay, got one run back.
Sorry for post 59. I got really frustrated. But in better news:
ADRIAN!
Even Adrian can score on that one! Woo-hoo!
Keep it up and steal this game you don’t deserve to win!
Thank you Cammy! Now, it’s a ball game.
Mike Cameron! Clutch hits!
#57: Heard a little too much of his stuff back in the day.
90 ft. away and Branyan!!!!!!!
67#: Yeah, all of us 40+ year old guys did. I still crank it up when they play ‘Mother’ on 105.3, though. And then I switch back to KGB to remind myself of my age.
If Khalil swings at the first pitch after that AB, I might just have to put my fist through my monitor.
I can’t believe it. Great job KG!
New ball game folks.
70: Uh oh… I guess you probably can’t respond now though.
I’m all talk
I’m back … and just in time it looks like!
59 … iirc, B(l)um has 14th inning hits 2 times … once for ChiSox, once for Padres, right? C’mon, the problem doesn’t need to be exagerated!
GY, Mattys’ talking about you! LOL.
Nats up 11-4 on Dogs … 9th inning there …
Mud is taking Khalil to task for that last at-bat, and I’m right with him. Terrible approach.
Still, at least we’re playing a bottom of the ninth.
76 … what’d he say?
74: I think that’s probably for the better though in this instance.
If this game goes extra innings we’re going to regret burning Heath Bell for 1/3 of an inning.
77 … that’s a final from Washington!
Nice play by NOG!
Ut-oh.
79: Glass half dude thing.
75: I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, Geoff Blum is far too valuable for his 14th inning heroics to be used in a game in at any other time than the 14th, except in an extreme emergency.
Whew, Scotty had me worried there.
Going to 10!
I lost track. Where are we in the batting order?
May Silent L not hit into another DP…
Never mind. P-Mac with a swinging bunt!
He did something productive!
NOG looks amped up.
What a clutch sacrifice by Blum.
Down on the Farm … Cedric 0-for-5 today … http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2007_05_31_souafx_ftwafx_1&t=g_box&did=milb … which reminds me, I’m hoping PF was trying to make 2 points earlier when he said he’d trade Cedric for Braves’ Salty … one, that Cedric is NOT the super-stud-prospect we sometimes think/hope he is … and, two, any trade that gets proposed and that any of immediately this “Ya, the Padres should do that” is NOT a trade that the Padres would even be likely to offer because it wouldn’t be CLOSE to be a trade the other team would accept … it just t’aint that easy to make a trade … especially with a team like the Braves that are in the hunt, ie. playing for THIS year and therefore have even LESS interest in a player like Cedric than the teams we will likely end up trading with (who will be trading some now-talent for future-talent).
All right, Sledge, no time like the present for that first hit against a lefty.
Freese with a 2-run double get Lake Elsinsore on the board in the 1st inning … http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?gid=2007_05_31_lesafa_inlafa_1&t=g_log&did=milb
Taking the walk to bring our best hitter to the plate is an excellent decision as well.
84 … me thinks Bud thinks this game’s gonna go 14 … and he’s got his lineup ready for it!
I just got back from my future-mother-in-law’s house. I heard Khalil’s AB in the bottom 9. It was really that bad, eh?
98: ‘Future-mother-in-law’, KG’s bad at bat. An omen maybe?
Blum is playing LF. And now you know why we claimed Bocachica off waivers…
The ‘Claw’ just fanned him!
101 … just fanned Bocachica?
98: Could be, could be. Of course, he might have a chance to redeem himself in the 11th. That would be nice.
I’m back home with my dogs now, so good AB time?
On to the 11th … one inning closer to “B(l)um Time”!
102: Huh? No, the 3rd out for the 10th.
David B posted this at pdxbeavers.com …
Hiram Bocachica-OF- Padres May. 31 – 5:53 pm et
Padres claimed outfielder Hiram Bocachica off waivers from the Athletics.
The Padres aren’t necessarily doing this with the intention of adding him to the major league roster. It’s possible he’ll replace Paul McAnulty, but it seems more likely that he’ll head to Triple-A Portland for now. The 31-year-old Bocachica was hitting .313/.444/.618 with nine homers and eight steals for Sacramento before being called up for two weeks. He was 1-for-17 with a homer while with the A’s.
CAMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cammy’s 200th career homer! Sweet!
Cameron goes yard. Sharpless lives up to his name.
I think Cameron’s found his stroke!
I hereby apologize for all of the derogatory things I’ve said about Cameron this year.
#106: It’s already been announced that Bocachica will be joining the big club in Washington tomorrow.
Shakespeare!
And some insurance from Shakespeare!
In that humidity! And Bard crushes it!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a night. First I discover Matty and Mud on Extra Innings, then I have to suffer through singing from both of them, and now back-to-back bombs!
Back-to-back!!!
106 … otoh … the article at mlb.com is making it clear he will join the Padres … and says this …
The Padres like Bocachica’s versatility and the fact that he’s a career .274 hitter against left-handed pitching in his Major League career with the Dodgers, Tigers, Mariners and A’s.
http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20070531&content_id=1997282&vkey=news_sd&fext=.jsp&c_id=sd
112: I’ll be at the whole series.
They won’t actually overturn this will they?
One of my greater joys in life is reading “In play (runs)” when a Padre is at the plate with no runners on, then waiting in anticipation for the “HOME RUN” to flash across the screen.
I don’t think I’d seen this posted previously …
Jose Cruz Jr. was a late scratch Thursday after complaining of a sore back, which meant Sledge got the start in left field and Paul McAnulty moved to right field.
Oh geez, they’re putting Bard on second. He’s just about to get tossed.
Bard got tossed.
Bard’s wasn’t on the bases, what could they honestly do about this?
Let’s hope Buddy doesn’t.
How is that not a home run if it hits that rail? That’s like 20 feet above the field. It definitely hit the rail but I can’t see how that’s not a homer.
How can they put him back at second? That’s a ground rule double because it hit the fence? That’s bush league.
What happened? Did it really go out?
122 … why? no can see …
Bud’s first ejection.
Buddys’ out.
It hit the top of the railing. But regardless, I don’t understand how they can put Bard back to second, they didn’t try to make a play on him.
Are we forgetting something? Did Bard run all 4 bases without being tagged out? THAT IS A HOMERUN – insude the park !!
Taking this moment to look ahead … I presume we’ll see Hoffy in bottom of 11th?
Mud says the umpires got the call right. Bard and Black have been tossed. Bowen is running for Bard. Let’s just win this thing and make it moot.
This is what happens when they don’t have a clear demarcation at the top of the fence. The ground rules must say that a runner gets two bases in this situation.
That railing is foul. West was pretty patient with Black. I’ll give him credit alongside Matty and Mud.
PADRES must appeal this.
133: you make a good point.
136: Thanks for the explanation. Hopefully this fires the guys up.
I’ve never seen Bard that hot, man he was pissed!
133: Makes a good point.
Let’s get Bowen in and make this irrelevant.
Great … when things like this happens, Yahoo just punts …
It’s obviously a ground rule double, or they wouldn’t be making the call like they did.
Hopefully Khalil can put this thing to bed.
#133: The only problem is that by ruling the ball a homer, the umpires in effect are saying the ball is out play.
OK, glass half full time (GY). We’re not down 2-0 and we are getting fired up in extra innings.
West handled the situation well, but Rapuano didn’t. Rapuano took off the mask and yelled “don’t you f###in’ come at me!” at the Padre dugout, which is bush league. Get back out there and do your job and quit agitating players.
That’s my main argument with a lot of umpires these days. If he had said that to me, I would have been on the field like Bard was.
By the way, the one thing Mud got wrong — Bard wasn’t tossed for contact with an umpire. He was gone before he ever got back on the field.
They got the call right….what I don’t like is the home plate umpire going after Bard just as much as Bard was arguing with him…
146: Another good point.
Wow!!! That’s basically all I have to say. I thought this would be a really boring series and it has been the opposite. I just hope we can pull out the win.
So there.
Well, at least we got the run.
148: What a jerk. You take a home run away from a guy and expect him to just accept it? Rapuano/Bucknor/West might be the worst crew in the game.
That’s a stupid wall anyway. I hate those needless idiosyncratic features, and that includes Petco Porch.
That will work. Khalil doesn’t get the hit, but he gets the run in.
Anyone feel like contributing some rudimentary play-by-play? LM and the other Padre Ex-pats are in the dark…
Current Pirates hitters against Trevor: 0-for-14, 5 SO.
Here’s a link to the ground rules:
http://pirates.mlb.com/pit/ballpark/pit_ballpark_groundrules.jsp
“# RIGHT FIELD:
# Ball reaching the seats above the railing: Home Run
# Ball hitting screen above scoreboard and beneath railing: In Play
# Ball striking railing and bounding into right field: In Play”
Bard was thrown out the minute he went on the field to argue and that isn’t right either. The fact that the umpire kept going at him and Bud Black was trying to hold the umpire back from Bard is just pathetic…
So, do we bring in Trevor now?
158: Based on the ground rules, my feeling is that this should have been a HR since the ball was still in play and Bard rounded the bases without being tagged out.
Hells Bells.
156 … thanks, BZ … but when Yahoo punts, I switch to http://baseballdirect.com/scoreboard/index.html … they are “slow but sure” … don’t know why GameDay punts for me more often than not …
#156: Bard hit what appeared to be a homer to right. After Jim Tracy came out to complain, the umpires gathered together for a very long time and then decided that the ball hit the top railing but didn’t leave yard, putting Bard back on second base.
Bard went ballistic and got tossed. Bud Black came out to argue and also got tossed. Bowen ran for Bard and scored the go-ahead run. With Cruz nursing a bad back, we are out of position players.
Can of corn.
directv just took a dump….can’t see the game…
161: If the umpires hadn’t signaled home run he would have been held at second. Once they admitted it wasn’t a home run it was the right call to put him at 2nd.
Black is now 129 behind Bobby Cox in career ejections.
2 down, close it out Trevor!!!
We win.
Is Cox the career leader? If he is, he just passed somebody, right? Who was that somebody?
164: Yahoo has a Cameron homer listed before the Bard Affair, Wouldn’t Bowen Scoring put us up by two?
Our AAA SS (Chang) HR’d to get scoring underway in that game …
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=milb&t=g_box&gid=2007_05_31_iowaaa_poraaa_1
161: That’s because the umpires called it wrong the first time. That’s why there was no play on the ball. They corrected themselves.
Two late inning wins in a row. It sure is nice to have a bullpen.
Nice job boys!!!
With 3 hits thru 8, I had definitely written this thing off.
#172: Yes, I misspoke; Bowen’s run was insurance.
Cox is still seven or so off the record.
Good come back for our Pads. I liked the drama after such an uneventfull 1-8 innings. This should make for a good read in tommorow’s U-T.
What an awesome way to end a game that started out as the worst of the year through 7 (offensively at least).
167 & 174: You guys are both right.
If they hadn’t called it a HR and Bard had rounded ‘em all, it would have been gone right?
177: Ok, sorry to be a pain in the can-of-corn…
#171: Cox is one behind John McGraw.
#175: It’s also nice not to lose to Shawn Chacon.
172 … final is 4-2 … yes, that means we win by two …
#182: We won; it’s all good!
After some googling, it appears that Cox is one ejection shy of John McGraw.
So is it a 3-way tie for 1st in NL West?
#187: You are correct, sir.
On the new acquisition, Hiram Bocachica, Baseball Prospectus had him projected for .264/.338/.469 and ZIPS for .253/.333/.419. Presumably his projection would be higher against lefties since he has a career line better against lefties. Looks like a solid pickup.
I just voted for Maddux as Lexus player of the game on Cox 4SD. What other choice? The guy pretty much held his own without hit support.
190: Mike Cameron, of course. He had the game tying and game winning hits, both of the extra base variety.
A three way tie and we are going into D.C. Not a bad thing.
191: Right. You can’t win without scoring runs.
191: It was a decision I had to make in the short time they put the choices on the screen. Haven’t you ever taken a test where you didn’t know the answer and just selected B?
194: Yeah, I was drunk though. Plus, you always select C, if you don’t know.
194 … I’ll bet TD is drunk and he thought he was selecting C …
I have spent enough time in the Bay Area and talking to friends who are Gi’nts fans and was listening to KNBR a bit just last night … this move is no surprise … http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AiG2QP4Q_LwqhemLDbsO_bIRvLYF?slug=ap-marlins-giantstrade&prov=ap&type=lgns … Gi’nts trade Benetiz to Marlins … amazing they got more than a bag-o-balls …
Benetiz was farily reviled.
I’m more-or-less happy with Bud so far, but its still wierd to see “Giants manager Bruce Bochy”
196: Naw. I always chose B. Got better grades with that.
OK, I’ll see you guys tommorow.
If you wanna talk about the Draft … Sickles’ site is doing a Mock Draft again … and there’s team-specific “diaries” … here’s a link to the latest Padres diary … http://minorleagueball.com/story/2007/5/30/23555/3890 … and lots of good comments in an older diary you can find via the ‘Search’ feature …
Ok, Lynch, I’ve been wondering this for a couple of weeks now and feel really dumb for not knowing it, but what does MOD stand for?
Should we put in a concerted effort to move the Padres up the list of “the best baseball teams”? Surely we can do better then 253?
http://onlinesaleschannels.wordpress.com/2007/05/21/google-ranks-the-best-baseball-teams/
(After reading too many truth and rumors about the Red Sox and Yankees, I thought I’d see who had more search results between them, the Dodgers & the Padres [Yankees hands down, though the Padres do well against the other two big market teams] and then went looking to see if someone had done all 30 MLB teams… Pathetic? Yup. Waiting for Sportscenter to start to see today’s highlights….)
Bocachica is the man!!!
202 … I felt the same way a couple of weeks ago, then found the answer … MOD = MockDraft Organization Diary … no biggie … join in!
205 … and just ’cause I’m sometimes a nit … MOD = Mock Organization Diary … and here’s the source …
http://minorleagueball.com/story/2007/5/16/16242/3715#commenttop
… bottom line still = join in! (@ link in 201).