Comments on: Seanez Set to Return, Could Wells Be Next? http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:39:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22452 LynchMob Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:43:48 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22452 Wait now ... here's what been said about the trade ... The Red Sox are to receive one of San Diego's top prospects, believed to be minor league catcher George Kottaras, or cash. ... I'm not seeing anyone here focus'ing on the "or cash" part of this statement! I read this as saying that it's not a certainty that Kottaras will be traded ... right? Do we need to start a "Save George" campaign? Wait now … here’s what been said about the trade …

The Red Sox are to receive one of San Diego’s top prospects, believed to be minor league catcher George Kottaras, or cash.

… I’m not seeing anyone here focus’ing on the “or cash” part of this statement! I read this as saying that it’s not a certainty that Kottaras will be traded … right?

Do we need to start a “Save George” campaign?

]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22451 LynchMob Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:39:55 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22451 "I think we got one of the biggest big-game pitchers there is in the game," general manager Kevin Towers said. ... hmmm, I guess size *does* matter ... “I think we got one of the biggest big-game pitchers there is in the game,” general manager Kevin Towers said.

… hmmm, I guess size *does* matter …

]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22449 LynchMob Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:37:58 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22449 Ben Johnson with an HR tonight (#7) for Portland tonight ... http://tinyurl.com/nrj9t ... and The Hammer with a coupla hits too ... + he's playing 3B :-) ... and he stole a base! Hey, it's almost Sept 1st ... let's get those guys UP HERE to kick a little Red bu**!!! Ben Johnson with an HR tonight (#7) for Portland tonight … http://tinyurl.com/nrj9t … and The Hammer with a coupla hits too … + he’s playing 3B :-) … and he stole a base!

Hey, it’s almost Sept 1st … let’s get those guys UP HERE to kick a little Red bu**!!!

]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22447 LynchMob Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:28:17 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22447 Hey, in case you didn't know it (and I didn't until just a few mins ago), the Padres are in the playoffs! That's the "AZL Padres", I'm talking about ... they are the Padres' "Rookie League" farm team ... home of Cedric Hunter (whom you know all about if you read Peter's PadresRunDown :-) ) ... check out the box score of their first playoff game ... http://tinyurl.com/qv5dw ... going on *now*!!! Hey, in case you didn’t know it (and I didn’t until just a few mins ago), the Padres are in the playoffs! That’s the “AZL Padres”, I’m talking about … they are the Padres’ “Rookie League” farm team … home of Cedric Hunter (whom you know all about if you read Peter’s PadresRunDown :-) ) … check out the box score of their first playoff game … http://tinyurl.com/qv5dw … going on *now*!!!

]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22445 LynchMob Fri, 01 Sep 2006 03:22:40 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22445 Hey, a triple for Matt Antonelli tonight @ Ft Wayne ... http://tinyurl.com/lod7a ... yippee! Note that he played 2B ... hmmm ... the starting 3B-man there, hit his 8th HR for the Wizards (13th total for his "short-season"), a Grand Slam! Hey, a triple for Matt Antonelli tonight @ Ft Wayne … http://tinyurl.com/lod7a … yippee! Note that he played 2B … hmmm … the starting 3B-man there, hit his 8th HR for the Wizards (13th total for his “short-season”), a Grand Slam!

]]> By: Ryguy http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22442 Ryguy Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:36:07 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22442 Phils lost in 10, so the Padres hold a 1 game lead. Phils lost in 10, so the Padres hold a 1 game lead.

]]> By: Kevin http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22439 Kevin Fri, 01 Sep 2006 02:10:32 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22439 Right, I agree with Peter on the cold, hard facts of this situation, not necessarily the analysis. As I said earlier in the day, Players To Be Named Later are rarely, rarely, rarely players to be later determined. The team involved just don't want to "name" them right now. It's probably going to be Kottaras, because that's what all the reports say. Teams don't trade David Wells or any other notable players any indecision about who they are getting in return, and that decision is not based on performance. That's not how it works. As for wether it's a good trade -- well, it happened a couple hours ago. Let's see what Wells does. Let's see what Kottaras does. Right, I agree with Peter on the cold, hard facts of this situation, not necessarily the analysis.

As I said earlier in the day, Players To Be Named Later are rarely, rarely, rarely players to be later determined. The team involved just don’t want to “name” them right now. It’s probably going to be Kottaras, because that’s what all the reports say.

Teams don’t trade David Wells or any other notable players any indecision about who they are getting in return, and that decision is not based on performance. That’s not how it works.

As for wether it’s a good trade — well, it happened a couple hours ago. Let’s see what Wells does. Let’s see what Kottaras does.

]]> By: Peter Friberg http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22438 Peter Friberg Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:48:28 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22438 Hey Mark 0, if you could get a suberb 3B rental (let's say Scott Rolen was available but he was a FA after the season) for the last month or two and all it costed was a starting pitcher w/ a mid-high 4 ERA w/ sub-.500 record, would you do that too? And no, the PTBNL is not based on performance, it's Kottaras. They just can't announce it officially because he's on the 40 man roster and wouldn't get through waivers. They'll complete the trade after the season's over. Oh, I forget to mention the starting pitcher is Peavy... We all know Peavy is better than some of his numbers suggest. Likewise, Kottaras is not a .224 hitter (evn though that's what he's now hitting in his first taste of AAA). Hey Mark 0, if you could get a suberb 3B rental (let’s say Scott Rolen was available but he was a FA after the season) for the last month or two and all it costed was a starting pitcher w/ a mid-high 4 ERA w/ sub-.500 record, would you do that too?

And no, the PTBNL is not based on performance, it’s Kottaras. They just can’t announce it officially because he’s on the 40 man roster and wouldn’t get through waivers. They’ll complete the trade after the season’s over.

Oh, I forget to mention the starting pitcher is Peavy…

We all know Peavy is better than some of his numbers suggest. Likewise, Kottaras is not a .224 hitter (evn though that’s what he’s now hitting in his first taste of AAA).

]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22437 Geoff Young Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:42:36 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22437 #175: I like it, but it's a qualified "like"; I'll have something a little more fully formed up in about an hour. #175: I like it, but it’s a qualified “like”; I’ll have something a little more fully formed up in about an hour.

]]> By: Mark O http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html/comment-page-4#comment-22436 Mark O Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:37:08 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/08/seanez-set-to-return-could-wells-be-next.html#comment-22436 re: 181 I agree completely...and I'm sure that the PTBNL is based on how Wells performs for the Padres. If he trips going down the stairs tomorrow and doesn't pitch at all for us, the Red Sox get a bag of balls...but if he turns the time maching on and pitches like he has in the past...the Sox still might get Koterras, which is fine with me. He helps us get into and win a first round playoff series...I'll trade a prospect who's hitting .233 in Portland right now... re: 181 I agree completely…and I’m sure that the PTBNL is based on how Wells performs for the Padres. If he trips going down the stairs tomorrow and doesn’t pitch at all for us, the Red Sox get a bag of balls…but if he turns the time maching on and pitches like he has in the past…the Sox still might get Koterras, which is fine with me. He helps us get into and win a first round playoff series…I’ll trade a prospect who’s hitting .233 in Portland right now…

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