Comments on: Keeping Separate Decisions Separate http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html Blogging the San Diego Padres baseball club. Established 1997. Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:12:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17792 LynchMob Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:08:04 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17792 The All-Hot Game? The 2-3-Months-Star Game? The 2-3-Months-Hot Game? I'd rather watch an All-Star Game ... with Nomar and/or Wagner ... Somebody (like CY) who's "hot" now can turn cold in an instant (and give up, say 4 ERs in 6+ IP (raising his ERA from a hot-looking 2.97 to a not-so-hot-looking 3.13), hey, I was *at* that game ... http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=260702125 :-( ) and all-of-a-sudden not be "hot" anymore!<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17792">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> The All-Hot Game?

The 2-3-Months-Star Game?

The 2-3-Months-Hot Game?

I’d rather watch an All-Star Game … with Nomar and/or Wagner …

Somebody (like CY) who’s “hot” now can turn cold in an instant (and give up, say 4 ERs in 6+ IP (raising his ERA from a hot-looking 2.97 to a not-so-hot-looking 3.13), hey, I was *at* that game … http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore?gid=260702125 :-( ) and all-of-a-sudden not be “hot” anymore!

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]]> By: lovespooh2 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17791 lovespooh2 Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:44:46 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17791 LM, you know that you and I disagree on the subject of who deserves to be an All-Star. If the All-Star game was held at the end of the year, after the World Series, then I would agree that any player could be selected. Fans would pick who they wanted (as most do now), but they would pick those who have had great years in the past (Explain why Piazza came in second, its for his past performances, not his present). Since the All-Star game is held midway through the year, why not have those who have excelled so far be selected. IF the name All-Star is throwing you off, then change the name of the game. :)<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17791">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> LM, you know that you and I disagree on the subject of who deserves to be an All-Star. If the All-Star game was held at the end of the year, after the World Series, then I would agree that any player could be selected. Fans would pick who they wanted (as most do now), but they would pick those who have had great years in the past (Explain why Piazza came in second, its for his past performances, not his present). Since the All-Star game is held midway through the year, why not have those who have excelled so far be selected. IF the name All-Star is throwing you off, then change the name of the game. :)

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17789 LynchMob Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:28:24 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17789 re: Mr. Baker's dilemma ... I don't think Mr. Baker's situation is framed well ... sure he'd turn down an offer to buy tix @ $200 with additional info on the cost to go (time & risk, given the snowstorm), but the situation is this: given an offer to go for free (ie. being given $200 tickets), would he go or not? That's his decision ... Either way, the point is this ... will Mr Baker make the go/no-go decision independant of the sunk $200 cost? I'm pretty sure I agree that Mr Baker should do so ... I think I understand the competing (and erroneous) concept of “minimization of regret” ... perhaps I'm struggling at the leap from Mr. Baker to Mr. Alderson ... it seems easier to see that Mr. Alderson's decision could/should have boiled down to "given that I have $X million to spend over the next Y years, is Player A or Player B a better investment" and that he needed to ignore the fact that he'd traded for Player A. The better parallel would be if somehow Player A had a buyout option which would represent a real discount if he were signed relative to Player B.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17789">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> re: Mr. Baker’s dilemma … I don’t think Mr. Baker’s situation is framed well … sure he’d turn down an offer to buy tix @ $200 with additional info on the cost to go (time & risk, given the snowstorm), but the situation is this: given an offer to go for free (ie. being given $200 tickets), would he go or not? That’s his decision …

Either way, the point is this … will Mr Baker make the go/no-go decision independant of the sunk $200 cost? I’m pretty sure I agree that Mr Baker should do so … I think I understand the competing (and erroneous) concept of “minimization of regret” … perhaps I’m struggling at the leap from Mr. Baker to Mr. Alderson … it seems easier to see that Mr. Alderson’s decision could/should have boiled down to “given that I have $X million to spend over the next Y years, is Player A or Player B a better investment” and that he needed to ignore the fact that he’d traded for Player A. The better parallel would be if somehow Player A had a buyout option which would represent a real discount if he were signed relative to Player B.

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]]> By: Nick G. http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17788 Nick G. Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:54:27 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17788 GY Great post today. Excellent, well-thought out stuff, as always. I'd love to hear more about the Pizza feed at some point. That's a nice little story from BA. I did not know that Headley was an Academic all-america at Tennessee. His quotes are pretty insightful -- it would be great to see the kid in a Pads' uniform sometime soon.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17788">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> GY

Great post today. Excellent, well-thought out stuff, as always. I’d love to hear more about the Pizza feed at some point.

That’s a nice little story from BA. I did not know that Headley was an Academic all-america at Tennessee. His quotes are pretty insightful — it would be great to see the kid in a Pads’ uniform sometime soon.

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17787 LynchMob Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:30:59 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17787 Here's my thought on Chris Young and the All-Star team ... I think the All-Star team is for All-Stars, not for guys with a "good first half". So, while I'd be OK with CY making the All-Star team, I don't think he's the best choice. If he's an All-Star, then he'll prove it over the 2nd half of this season and again the 1st half of next season and make the team next year (and several more years after that, I'd hope). If he doesn't prove he's an All-Star over the next baseball-year, then that means he wasn't deserving of the spot this season. Nomar's an All-Star ... Wagner's an All-Star ... Peavy's an All-Star ... heck, even Piazza's an All-Star (but I understand the concept of him being *way* past his prime) ... CY may be an All-Star in the future ... I hope so ... no need to jump the gun, however, we've got plenty of time to watch him develop into it.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17787">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Here’s my thought on Chris Young and the All-Star team … I think the All-Star team is for All-Stars, not for guys with a “good first half”. So, while I’d be OK with CY making the All-Star team, I don’t think he’s the best choice. If he’s an All-Star, then he’ll prove it over the 2nd half of this season and again the 1st half of next season and make the team next year (and several more years after that, I’d hope). If he doesn’t prove he’s an All-Star over the next baseball-year, then that means he wasn’t deserving of the spot this season.

Nomar’s an All-Star … Wagner’s an All-Star … Peavy’s an All-Star … heck, even Piazza’s an All-Star (but I understand the concept of him being *way* past his prime) … CY may be an All-Star in the future … I hope so … no need to jump the gun, however, we’ve got plenty of time to watch him develop into it.

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]]> By: LynchMob http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17786 LynchMob Wed, 05 Jul 2006 20:09:01 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17786 Here's a look at the Padres' OF situation ... http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20060705-9999-1s5padnotes.html ... DR should be back tonight ... this tells me that the Padres' don't really like McAnulty, Sledge, Knott, Cust ... Johnson's clearly got more upside than either of them, but each of them, in that order, imo, seem like better options for a roster spot than EY ...<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17786">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Here’s a look at the Padres’ OF situation … http://www.signonsandiego.com/.....notes.html … DR should be back tonight … this tells me that the Padres’ don’t really like McAnulty, Sledge, Knott, Cust … Johnson’s clearly got more upside than either of them, but each of them, in that order, imo, seem like better options for a roster spot than EY …

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]]> By: LaMar http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17785 LaMar Wed, 05 Jul 2006 19:39:07 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17785 GY, are you and the other attendees at the Pizza Feed planning on a summary of what transpired? I, for one, would be interested.<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17785">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> GY, are you and the other attendees at the Pizza Feed planning on a summary of what transpired? I, for one, would be interested.

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]]> By: Steve http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17784 Steve Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:15:28 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17784 GY are you buying tix at the gate on fri or online before hand?<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17784">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> GY are you buying tix at the gate on fri or online before hand?

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]]> By: Geoff Young http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17783 Geoff Young Wed, 05 Jul 2006 18:01:30 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17783 Thanks, Anthony; agreed about Alderson. Steve: I hope Canseco is there as well; either way, the meetup is on. In other news, BA has a profile of Chase Headley up today: http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/news/261872.html<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17783">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> Thanks, Anthony; agreed about Alderson.

Steve: I hope Canseco is there as well; either way, the meetup is on.

In other news, BA has a profile of Chase Headley up today:
http://www.baseballamerica.com.....61872.html

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]]> By: Steve http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html/comment-page-1#comment-17782 Steve Wed, 05 Jul 2006 17:15:23 +0000 http://ducksnorts.com/blog/2006/07/keeping-separate-decisions-separate.html#comment-17782 did anyone else see this? http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2509719 I hope he is still there on friday<p class="top-comments">Current score: <span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-17782">0</span> <small>(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)</small></p> did anyone else see this?

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=2509719

I hope he is still there on friday

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