In-Game Discussion: Padres vs Indians (9 Jun 2005)

first pitch: 12:35 p.m., PT
television: none
matchup: Adam Eaton (8-1, 3.48 ERA) vs Jake Westbrook (2-8, 5.30 ERA)
previews: ESPN | CBS | SI | Padres.com

The Padres, who are now 1-6 in May June, try to avoid being swept by the Indians this afternoon. It’s hardly panic time, but with the Dodgers surging, the Friars need to get back to their winning ways. Jake Peavy turned in his second straight subpar performance Wednesday night, serving up three homers in a game for the first time since August 14, 2003, at Atlanta. Peavy has allowed three homers or more in just 5 of his 88 big league starts, and he’s generally come back very strong the following game (courtesy David Pinto’s Day By Day Database):

                    IP H R ER HR BB SO
23 Aug 2002 v Fla  7.0 7 2  2  0  0  8
27 May 2003 v Mil  8.1 5 2  2  0  2  5
21 Jul 2003 v StL  6.1 5 4  3  0  6  3
20 Aug 2003 v NYN  7.0 6 0  0  0  1  7

We can only hope that trend continues with his next start. Meantime, this afternoon’s contest sees two first-round picks from the 1996 draft square off against each other. Eaton was taken 11th overall by the Phillies, out of Snohomish HS in Washington; Westbrook was nabbed with the 21st pick by Colorado, out of Madison County HS in Georgia.

Shortstop Matt Halloran was the Padres first pick (#15 overall) in 1996. Another Padre, Brian Falkenborg, was the Orioles first pick (second round, #51 overall). Like Eaton, he hailed from the state of Washington. I wonder if those two ever faced each other in high school? Geez, what a horrible draft for the Padres that year. I believe Jason Middlebrook (ninth round) is the only guy who ever sniffed the big leagues.

How did we get on this tangent anyway? Let’s move on to the head-to-heads:

                             AB   BA  OBP  SLG
Eaton vs current Indians     80 .225 .311 .388
Westbrook vs current Padres  27 .185 .207 .259

Jose Hernandez (.385/.429/.846 in 13 AB) has handled Eaton well over the years. Alex Cora (.194/.310/.278 in 36 AB) not so much, though no doubt he’s fouled off a ton of pitches. On the other side, Robert Fick (.333/.364/.444 in 9 AB) is the only Padre who’s seen Westbrook much.

Friars need some good Eaton today. With the best team in baseball on its way into town, now would be a good time to start winning.

87 Comments

  1. Posted June 9, 2005 at 8:10 am | Permalink

    We got pitching, jeebus. Its the htting that sucks. Cold as ice, can’t string to hits together, can’t get a break, hitting slump. These guys get paid to hit and they are not hitting. Ton on weak ground balls last night, really frustrating. That guy hadn’t won a road game in thirteen tries. Streaky hitting is our problem, not pitching.

  2. Posted June 9, 2005 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    So true, Mike. So true. When B-Law goes eight scoreless and can’t get the W, that’s not good.

    On another note:

    Matt Bush has made the MWL All-Star team as a reserve. It’s an interesting choice given that Bush is hitting .242/.282/.304.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=citadel-2_385563_315&prov=citadel&type=story

    And a little something on draftees Cesar Ramos and Neil Jamison from their college pitching coach, Troy Buckley:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=citadel-2_386038_315&prov=citadel&type=story

    Good stuff as usual from Scout.com.

  3. Posted June 9, 2005 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Games are hard for me to stay up and watch, now that they’re losing. On the bright side, I’ve been feeling much more rested and refreshed at work in the mornings!

  4. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 11:05 am | Permalink

    Actually, Geoff, the Padres are 1-6 in June, not May. Honest mistake though.

  5. Posted June 9, 2005 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    See, I just couldn’t get that great May off my mind! (The month, not the pitcher.)

  6. Bruce
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    My goodness Eaton better bring his sinker today, our defensive outfield has NO range!

  7. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

    This is our Luzinski outfield.

  8. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    You guys may know this, but I didn’t know all the specific players who were sick. This is from CBS SportsLine:

    By week’s end, Peavy, Ryan Klesko and Geoff Blum had been forced to miss games while Brian Giles made two starts in right despite a three-digit temperature. Key reserves Aki Otsuka, Damian Jackson and Robert Fick also were ailing.

  9. Bruce
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 12:57 pm | Permalink

    Yeah it was quite an infirmary there over the weekend, and of course Nevin missed last night’s game with a 24 hour flu. He’s back in there today.

  10. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 12:58 pm | Permalink

    Giles was a serious gamer.

  11. Bruce
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    Yeah and we still have people complaining (not here) about Giles’ home stats. I don’t know about you, but I doubt I could do much of anything with a 3 figure temp.

    Eaton is throwing a lot of pitches btw.

  12. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:03 pm | Permalink

    Sounded like Ramon took a foul tip.

  13. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Giles is so good. He can drawn walks in a coma, I think. He’s on pace for 124.

  14. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

    Khalil gets his first hit of the series, an RBI single. (I’m so stoned.)

  15. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Apparently the secret to offensive success for the Padres is Adam Eaton.

  16. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    RBI base hit by Eaton. 2-0, Padres. This guy comes through with the bat quite a bit.

  17. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    Eaton is batting .258 now. Eight hits on the year, two RBIs.

  18. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Burroughs: nice stop and throw from his knees, Caminiti-style.

  19. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

    Runs. What a concept.

  20. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

    51 pitches by Eaton.

  21. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    What’s with the Apple guy?

  22. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    I know Burroughs has brought nothing with the bat this season and taken some deserved heat for it. But according to win shares through June 3, he is tied with Mora and Blalock as the best fielding third baseman in the majors. Not bad.

  23. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    I don’t know what’s up with that guy. We could organize an email jihad if we want to.

  24. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

    Ah ha…Bochy needs to run more pitchers out there. Its obvious, they are the real RBI men on this team. I wonder if Eaton gets a little swagger returning to the dugout.

    “Gees guys, do I have to do everything round here…”

    Heh.

    This is our first lead in a week.

  25. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    Klesko almost had himself a home run.

  26. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

    I think Flan’s bad luck.

  27. Landi
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    why do u guys think Eaton found his rythm this year..i mean hes been good..but not this good

  28. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

    Speaking of Flan, he’s come a long, long way in his ability to call a game.

  29. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

    Eaton was solid in ‘03. He got hurt. In ‘04 it didn’t seem like he had gotten back to full strength. This year he’s putting it together. Sound right?

  30. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Does it matter that a guy checked his swing if it was a strike anyway? I didn’t think so…

  31. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    I heard he’s gotton mentally tougher which comes with experience. Eaton and joey Hamilton seem alike in many way except that Hamilton didn’t learn to be tough. Eaton doesn’t fall apart in the fifth after walking a couple of guys. That is the diff to me.

  32. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Big time strikeout for Adam. Hopefully he can get out of this unscathed.

  33. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    He hasn’t been throwing hitters’ pitches in pitchers’ counts.

  34. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    Leadoff double does not come around to score.

  35. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Eaton didn’t outright stink before. And he’s not dominant now. And his 8-1 record is better than his 3.48 ERA. But you guys are probably right: It’s a lot of the little things. He’s putting himself in a position to succeed and is mature. Getting out of that jam was a good example.

  36. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    4.0 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K for Eaton so far. He’s thrown 74 pitches (46 strikes). I’d like to see us get two more innings out of him, but he needs to be more efficient if he’s going to make it through six.

  37. Bruce
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    While he’s still prone to the mistake pitch (who isn’t?) Eaton does seem to be mentally tougher this year. I think the off season mechanical adjustments have given him a new sense of confidence.

  38. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Love it when the player proves your off-the-top of-the-head-in-the-middle-of-work explanation. Heh.

    Now, lets get some runs and support the guy.

    When is Eaton up next?

  39. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, Mike, that inning worked out well for the explanations.

  40. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

    The Padres only have two hits (both singles) to Cleveland’s five (two doubles) and yet we lead 2-0. That’s just great…

  41. Brian G.
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    Hazarding a guess here — I thinking the apple guy (who, presumably, hails from Washington state) was inspired by his homie Adam Eaton’s 8-1 start and new-found dominance.

    But I could be wrong.

  42. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

    That’s Fick’s third putout of the game.

  43. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    Crap, got a long meeting to go to. See you guys latter.

    Go Padres!

  44. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:51 pm | Permalink

    Interesting theory, Brian.

  45. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Nine pitch inning. How’s that for more efficient?

  46. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

    Fick comes in batting .389/.450/.778. Maybe he is trying to add a Gold Glove to his MVP season.

  47. Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    I’m glad they’re getting Fick more AB’s. If nothing else, it lowers his ridiculous rate stats.

  48. Brian G.
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

    Imagine his venom if we’d been playing Florida, home of many an orange grove…

    The mind reels.

  49. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    Are you saying Fick is not Derrek Lee?

  50. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Ouch Richard!

    “I’m glad they’re getting Fick more AB’s. If nothing else, it lowers his ridiculous rate stats.”

    Are you rooting for our guys to do poorly?

  51. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

    On ESPN.com, the second story under headlines is “Eaton looks for win No. 9 vs. Indians LIVE!” Maybe Eaton has really made it.

  52. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

    I suppose it would look that way.

  53. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:05 pm | Permalink

    Since Peavy is often compard to Maddux, I think Eaton is pitching like Glavine today. Nothing spectacular, but you better get to him early, before he gets in a rhythm.

  54. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    Through six innings, Adam has thrown 98 pitches, allowed six hits, one walk and no runs. He’s also struck out six. It’s nice to see him put up numbers that look like they should result in scoreless innings.

  55. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    No earned runs in this game. And I don’t think there were any in the Greene error game. Just shows you how the little things matter in this park.

  56. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:08 pm | Permalink

    Home run, Brian Giles. Over the 396 sign. Where’s Lance?

  57. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Giles: breathing-room homer.

  58. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

    Westbrook thinks he’s a goalie or something.

  59. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    The old 1-5-3 play for one out. That’s good stuff.

  60. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    A thought: I’m fairly certain that Giles has better stats relative to NL Outfielders than does Hernandez relative to NL Catchers.

  61. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Interesting call sending Adam back out having already thrown 98 pitches (103 already).

  62. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    3-0 count? Comes back to strike him out. Believe it.

  63. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    Giles is the more valuable player. But the catching ranks are kind of thin, I think.

  64. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

    I’ll have to look at the stats later tonight, but I think Giles may be in the top 3 and I’m fairly certain Ramon is no longer the top catcher statistically speaking.

  65. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Hernandez is third in wins shares, but just a hair behind Estrada and Matheny.

  66. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Strikes out the side to finish the seventh. I believe we earlier discussed how he hasn’t been dominant. Well, he was today. 7 IP, 9 K, 1 BB, 6 H, 0 HR, 0 R. (117 pitches, though)

  67. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    Giles is No. 2 among outfielders (in the NL) behind Abreu. So you’re right.

  68. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

    I was actually thinking in terms of VORPr (which fails to capture defense).

  69. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    I’m not saying this game is over. But I need to go to the gym. Richard, take care of Hoffman for me.

  70. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

    What’s the site that tracks win shares?

  71. Kevin
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    http://www.hardballtimes.com/winshares/index.php

  72. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    I’ll be gone, too.

  73. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

    Richard, who are your three NL All Star OF’ers?

  74. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    I had Abreu, Giles and to be honest I can’t remember my third.

  75. Bruce
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Eaton looked great today. Best game of the year for him.

  76. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    It was Miguel Cabrera based on VORPr.

  77. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    3-1, Padres. This Crisp guy is good.

  78. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    I previously had Cabrera/A. Jones/Dunn – Now I’d have throw Abreu & Giles into the mix. I try not to decide on 1/2 seasons since players are forever referred to as “All Star [position name]” and I don’t want guys with hot starts to be All Stars… But none of those guys are solely fast start guys…

  79. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

    To my mind, Abreu and Giles are both deserving future hall of famers (assuming they maintain reasonable production a few more years).

  80. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Well, I need to get out of here. I need to be in Alpine by 3 o’clock.

  81. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

    Somebody handle Kevin’s Hoffman call.

  82. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

    Giles got kind of a late start to his career, but his rate-stats merrit consideration… But the same (Future HOF) could be said of A. Jones. And Dunn is a prolific HR hitter…

  83. Posted June 9, 2005 at 2:46 pm | Permalink

    got nervous for a sec. there…

  84. LynchMob
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

    YADR … yet another draft recap … http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=citadel-2_385691_315&prov=citadel&type=story

  85. LynchMob
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

    The Seattle Mariners traded shortstop Wilson Valdez to the San Diego Padres on Thursday for two minor league pitchers.

    Seattle will receive right-handers Mike Bumstead and R.D. Spiehs. Both were pitching for Triple-A Portland.

  86. Lance
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Just back from the game. Sat about halfway down the visitors’ dugout, second row. Terrific seats for a terrific game.

  87. Jay
    Posted June 9, 2005 at 5:32 pm | Permalink

    I had to “watch” it via MLB Gameday, but glad to see us pull this one out. I tallied the total bases (TB + BB) and I think Cleveland out “based” us 17 to 9 or something. Sometimes you get lucky. I hope this cold spell is due to the illnesses. Go Pads.