first pitch: 7:05 p.m., PT
television: Channel 4
matchup: Jake Peavy (3-0, 2.57 ERA) vs Ryan Franklin (2-4, 4.20 ERA)
previews: ESPN | CBS | SI
Padres, on the heels of a six-game homestand sweep, head to the Pacific Northwest and hope that they can continue their success on the road. The Mariners, despite the off-season signings of high-profile free agents Adrian Beltre and Richie Sexson, aren’t doing too well so far.
AB BA OBP SLG
Peavy vs current Mariners 52 .212 .268 .288
Franklin vs current Padres 54 .204 .306 .389
For the M’s, Beltre (.250/.318/.400 in 20 AB) has the only homer off Peavy. Another former NL West guy, Sexson, has singled in 10 at-bats, with four strikeouts. Peavy is destroying right-handed hitters in 2005, holding them to .194/.230/.290 in the early going.
On the other side, the first thing that jumps out in Franklin’s line is the 3.28 K/9. Opponents are hitting just .223 against him this year, but that’s a ton of balls in play. He serves up fly balls and allows a fair number of home runs (8 so far this year, 30+ each of the past two seasons). Franklin seems like the type of pitcher against whom the Pads should do well. Ramon Hernandez (.067/.125/.067 in 15 AB) has seen Franklin the most and has done absolutely nothing against him. Robert Fick, Phil Nevin, and Sean Burroughs all have homers. Might be a good time to give Fick a start behind the plate. Presumably Mark Sweeney will serve as DH.
Ten Reasons the Seattle/San Diego Rivalry Is Huge
- Both have the I-5 running through town
- Both are near the Pacific Ocean
- Both are near the border of a very large country
- Both start with the letter “S”
- Eddie Vedder
- Neither has an NHL team
- Both are charter cities
- Rich Aurilia, Jeff Cirillo, Ben Davis, Wiki Gonzalez, Dave Hansen, Kevin Jarvis, Ramon Vazquez
- Old school: Al Martin, Marc Newfield, Scott Sanders, Ron Villone
- Three words: Peoria Sports Complex
Cubs/White Sox? Please. Marlins/Devil Rays? I don’t think so. Yankees/Mets. Fuggedaboutit. Mariners/Padres. That, my friends, is a rivalry. Because MLB says so, that’s why.
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I’m first?
PS – Eddie Vedder is a San Diegan all the way.
You da man. TV announcers talking about how old the M’s got last year. They probably shouldn’t use 28-year-old Freddy Garcia as an example.
For a 1-2-3 inning, the Pads made Franklin work. He threw 21 pitches.
Jake is looking good…nice start
Beltre isn’t right. Peavy falls behind 3-0 and comes back to strike him out.
Pads have won six straight series. First time they’ve done that since 1996.
Home run Ramon. Ichiro climbs the wall and has his glove a good 3-4 feet above the top. Not close.
Geoff – A question out of nowhere for you: Would you deal Nady for a good starting pitcher, like say, Roger Clemens? Purely hypothetical — I’m not starting or reporting any rumors. Just asking you to put on your GM hat.
I’d be willing to consider it, yes.
And on that note, I have to duck out to L&L for some Hawaiian barbecue. Be back in about an hour.
Go Pads!
I would definitely consider trading Nady as well for a top starting pitcher.
Interesting to hear, Mark and Geoff. Do your comments indicate that you feel, as I do, that the Padres rotation could still stand a little bolstering? And I’m not talking about the back end of the rotation. Clemens was probably a little too aggressive (wishful?) though.
I think we could use a guy like Kevin Brown was for us in 1998. Jake is on his way to being that guy..but we could use a guy who’s been there before and I don’t consider Woody to be that guy.
I’ve heard on the radio talk of Clemens going to the Yanks … so it would seem he’s “available” … to go to a “team in contention” …
Alternate thought: instead of Nady, how about trading Nevin? I don’t have a feel for his relative “market value” … I suppose any team we’d be trading with would be looking more to the future than a guy like Nevin would fit … ie. any team that’d want Nevin would also prefer the pitcher we’d get for him … part of my idea for trading Nevin is wishful thinking that Tagg Bozied could come up and play 1B for us later this season …
A little top o’ 5th rally going …
- S. Burroughs walked
- K. Greene hit by pitch, S. Burroughs to second
- G. Blum singled to center, S. Burroughs scored, K. Greene to third
Pitching numbers so far (I think thru 4 full) …
Pitches-strikes – J Peavy 59-42; R Franklin 57-41.
Ground balls-fly balls – J Peavy 4-2; R Franklin 1-8.
Batters faced – J Peavy 12; R Franklin 14.
Angels just now score 4 on Dogs … up 4-0 in top of 2nd …
D-backs win today … 6-2 over Tigers … Webb now 6-0 … who saw that comin’? I sure didn’t.
Peavy now with a 3-0 cushion … top of 5th finished thus …
- R. Hernandez flied out to left center
- S. Burroughs walked
- K. Greene hit by pitch, S. Burroughs to second
- G. Blum singled to center, S. Burroughs scored, K. Greene to third
- D. Roberts hit sacrifice fly to deep right center, K. Greene scored
- M. Sweeney walked, G. Blum to second
- R. Klesko flied out to center
PS. Hensley throwing no-no thru 5 for Portland Beavers … http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2005_05_20_mrbaaa_poraaa_1
Ft Wayne loses team no-no in 9th … http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2005_05_20_kccafx_ftwafx_1 …
It’s a night for no-no’s
Make that “near no-no”s … pitching stats thru 5 …
Pitches-strikes – J Peavy 80-55; R Franklin 75-50.
Ground balls-fly balls – J Peavy 4-2; R Franklin 1-11.
Batters faced – J Peavy 17; R Franklin 21.
Peavy now with 9K’s, 0 BBs, 2 Hs … SMOKIN’!
Hi Lynch,
Good to see you! Nevin won’t go for any trade. I believe he has a no-trade clause (which he exercised in the short-lived deal for Ken Griffey, Jr.). Also, I seem to recall him expressing an interest in staying close to his daughter, who lives in the San Diego area.
Besides Barfield, I’d guess Nady may be one of the most desirable assets the Padres have for a potential trade.
I really don’t see Nevin being traded. I don’t think that’s the kind of guy you give up if we’re still in the pennant race.
Padres quite in top of 6th …
- B. Giles walked
- P. Nevin grounded out to shortstop, B. Giles to second
- R. Hernandez struck out swinging
- S. Burroughs grounded out to shortstop
But I agree that the Padres should make a deal for another starting pitcher … deal Barfield? That’d be tempting … but it seems like his value would be a bit down right now …
Kottaras? That’s a lot of future …
Uh oh, Peavy walks M’s #9 hitter … that’s not good …
Agree with you completely, Mark. They’d never deal him in the midst of a pennant race even though he’s left about 3,000,002 men on base already this year.
With that, I’m going to throw out some names from teams who are struggling (and are likely to continue to struggle up to and beyond the deadline). Let’s start with Barry Zito. Interested?
Yeah…I’d definitely consider making a move for Zito. I’m not sure I’d give them Nady for him though..
Pitchers thru 6 …
Pitches-strikes – J Peavy 96-63; R Franklin 93-59.
Ground balls-fly balls – J Peavy 5-4; R Franklin 3-11.
Batters faced – J Peavy 21; R Franklin 25.
Factors in favor of a Zito trade: He’s from San Diego, he’s left-handed, he’s got big game experience, the Padres have made big deals with Oakland before, Oakland is the kind of organization that would be interested in a Nady-like player.
Against: He’s been a .500 pitcher for the past two years. Contract.
Factors in favor of a Zito trade: He’s from San Diego, he’s left-handed, he’s got big game experience, the Padres have made big deals with Oakland before, Oakland is the kind of organization that would be interested in a Nady-like player.
Against: He’s been a .500 pitcher for the past two years. Contract.
I’d rather have Nady than Zito. I’d also rather see Nady playing every day.
Sorry for the double post.
While we’re talking about lefties, how about Andy Pettite?
He’s on the hook for $8.5M this year. I wouldn’t give Nady for Pettitte, but he’s not a bad idea.
I’d take Zito for Nady in a heart-beat … and I’m a HUGE Nady fan … and I agree that Zito’s just a .500 pitcher … but that’s all we’re looking for!
I don’t think the A’s take Nady for Zito …
If you’re playing the infield in, you pretty much have to make the play. We’ll take it.
Kevin Millwood (Cleveland)…?
And let me clarify what I mean by a “huge Nady fan” … I don’t think he’s a future All-Star … I’m just rooting for him because I’ve been following his minor league career since we drafted him … so I HOPE he becomes a full-time regular player … it’d be GREAT if he made an All-Star team or 2 … I just don’t think it’s gonna happen … because I also hope’d that’d happen for Ben Davis and Dave Staton and Ray McDavid and Shawn Abner and … Jake Gautreau and Tagg Bozied and … well, you get the idea …
Hey there’s a Putz up in the bullpen.
Isn’t Millwood on a 1-yr deal? I don’t know that I’d deal Nady to get any pitcher that’s on a 1-yr deal.
Big fly time! Put the hammer down!
Or just squirt one down the 3B line.
Yes. One year, $7MM, I think.
GY, are you thinking Nady is your RF next year? 3B? In other words, where are you going to play him if you keep him?
OT … scoring question … check out this from the A’s vs Giants game tonight …
- K. Ginter hit sacrifice fly into double play right to shortstop to second, E. Chavez scored, B. Kielty to third, S. Hatteberg out at second
… so,since Ginter hit into a double play, no RBI? The box score makes it look like they gave him an RBI … but I thought no RBI on DP … would that be only GIDP? Suppose so …
mini-big-fly will do
6-0 Padres!
How long let Peavy go? I say he’s done soon … if not now …
Giles and Burroughs are both up at the end of the year. I think there’s a decent chance that Nady could end up replacing one of them in 2006.
Interesting about the DP. It would seem so.
Wow, Peavy looks good.
Hensley ended up giving up 2 H’s in 7 IP for Portland … Kerry Robinson & Ben Johnson with HRs … hey, ANY chance Robinson would fetch us a bullpen arm in a trade? Just an idea
I would agree that there’s a good chance that Nady is probably replacing Giles next season. He has said that he hopes that he can play on the same team as his brother.
Nice play by Blum coming in on that grounder to get Ibanez. I like him better at second than short.
Robinson for a reliever? I think Oropesa is available.
Hey…a ducksnort sighting at the game tonight..
Kottaras with a 9th inning HR to tie up that ballgame … http://www.minorleaguebaseball.com/app/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2005_05_20_lesafx_lncafx_1
I’m just trying to picture a scenario that would lead to that play…bases loaded, high fly to deep left. All runners tag because the ball is so high (or perhaps foul?) that it makes no sense to go half-way. It had to be a long throw back to the infield because it was relayed back in by the shortstop.
I’m hoping the description has omitted a few important details.
By the way, the Dodgers are losing 4-0 in the 6th to the Santa Fe Springs/City of Orange Angels.
Aw, Geoff, can’t a guy dream?
Pitching stats thru 7 …
Pitches-strikes – J Peavy 111-72; R Franklin 108-65; M Thornton 17-11.
Ground balls-fly balls – J Peavy 6-5; R Franklin 3-11; M Thornton 1-0.
Batters faced – J Peavy 25; R Franklin 28; M Thornton 4.
Peavy’s gotta be done now, right?
I’m just catching up on the posts. Zito was also tutored by Randy Jones, that’s another connection.
I just looked at the line score — 6 runs on FOUR hits?
Why isn’t Nady in this game?
I think if my last name was “Putz” I would have my name changed. I don’t care how he wants it prounounced.
Franklin had 5 walks in 6.1 IP … that, plus 3 hits (2 XBH) yielded 5 runs … all earned!
nice pitch
Reyes in. Home run Olivo.
A Padres fan at Safeco is holding up a sign that says “Padres… Cleaning Up Baseball, One Sweep at a Time.”
Mark – I agree! I wonder if his first name is “Sue”
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=putz
Ouch!
Holy smokes, Suzuki is fast!
man is Ichiro fast…holy cow
ROTFLOL! Thanks, Geoff!
I think there was smoke coming off his shoes as he went down the 1st baseline
One good thing about being a baseball fan in the NW is getting to see Ichiro! on TV … he is THE REAL DEAL!
Mr. Negative-
I’ll bet you the tab from our next meal together that Reyes allows no more than three runs. ;>)
A’s score 5 in the 7th to lead the Giants 8-3.
They just showed another guy in the crowd wearing an old school Tony Gwynn uni.
Also, Matt V. is explaining why the Pads don’t show up on ESPN Sports Center more often. Has to do with the fact that Channel 4 isn’t available on satellite.
What a great play by Sean B.
Heckuva play by Burroughs to end the inning. Hang a star.
That play by Burroughs is why I would like to see him remain the third baseman for years.
Reyes does his job …
I think we’ll be seeing Burroughs playing 3B for quite awhile. If Nady is still here…I bet he is in RF.
Again, why no AB for Nady?
Kevin,
If Burroughs continues to have an OPS in the mid-.600s (with 8 RBI through 42 games), he’s not going to be your 3B too much longer after this season.
I’m wondering if they’ll move Loretta there to open up 2B for Barfield next year (or 2007).
Time again for a BIG FLY!
Burroughs isn’t exactly killing the ball, but he’s 24 and playing a Gold Glove third base. And he’s usually hitting eighth. I’ll take him.
Another question for the panel: I’m no Bruce Bochy fan but how much longer can you afford (literally) to make the guy wait for a contract extention?
The extension is coming in the next two weeks, according to the Tribune today.
1 HR every 123 career ABs just isn’t going to cut it from your 3B.
Unless he’s Wade Boggs or John McGraw.
8 in a row….very nice win for the boys…
Eight in a row, 17 out of 20. Peavy rocks.
Some final pitching stats …
Pitcher IP PC H ER BB K
Peavy 7.0 111 3 0 1 10
Reyes 1.0 18 2 1 0 0
Otsuka 1.0 20 0 0 1 1
Ho, hum … another W
our 3B, Brian.
Sorry. I was using the generic ‘your’.
I’m just not sure that a powerless 3B is a luxury we can afford, especially with the Padres’ top infield prospect supposedly getting ready to make the jump to the major leagues.
And thank you for the update on the Bochy situation.
Brian, here is that link:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/padres/20050520-9999-1s20bochy.html
Other final pitching numbers …
Pitches-strikes – J Peavy 111-72; D Reyes 18-13; R Franklin 108-65; M Thornton 17-11; J Putz 14-8; J Campillo 17-13.
Ground balls-fly balls – J Peavy 6-5; D Reyes 2-1; R Franklin 3-11; M Thornton 1-0; J Putz 0-2; J Campillo 0-2.
Batters faced – J Peavy 25; D Reyes 5; R Franklin 28; M Thornton 4; J Putz 3; J Campillo 4.
Loretta update:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2065032&CMP=OTC-DT9705204233
Surgery remains a possibility.
Eight in a row. I don’t necessarily like seeing our 23 y/o staff ace throwing 111 pitches in a blow-out, though.
That was fun to watch. Nothing too flashy, but worked walks, got hits. Good pitching. It is almost like they are waking up to say “Hey, we are a good team.” and are starting to play like it.
Now, if Arizona would just go away.
On the rivalry, yes it is arbitrary, but cannot think of a better option. Angels/Dodgers is obvious, same with Oakland/SF. Doesn’t leave much. At least we did not end up with Detroit (is that Arizona’s rival?).
And, as arbitrary as it is, how great were those two grand slams in the 9th by Rondell White? And the Pads are leading the series, despite many of those years Seattle had a better record.
Works for me.
why the Pads don’t show up on ESPN Sports Center more often. Has to do with the fact that Channel 4 isn’t available on satellite. (What you mean by this…I don’t get channel 4 on satellite and wish they had a padres station on there) Anyway I would not trade Barfield or Nady…If anyone is going to be traded I think it will be Giles or Roberts…they are both on the last year of there contract and while the Pads would love to deal Nevin, his no trade clause will not allow that to happen…we could trade Giles to ATL for some prospect pitching and put Nady in Right Field…as far as “trade bait” goes…I see Burroughs as the only one I would trade for young pitching.
Hey SDPf … seems like you might be stuck in “wait ’till next year”-mode … it’s not the time for the Padres to be trading for “young pitching” … we’re talking about trading for an established veteran … somebody who can/will win some games in the #5 (or even higher) slot in our rotation. So the Padres are (need to be
thinking about what players will be better in the future that they can trade for a player that will be better this year (and hence get the Padres to the post-season … even the World Series … ah, that sounds so sweet to even hear me type 
… now is not the time for the Padres to be trading for prospects, but rather trading a prospect for help NOW … aka “the future is NOW” 